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  • 10-17-2006, 06:14 AM
    Boo
    Quote Originally Posted by chungt79
    when someone dances or jumps onto the cage, that's called celebration. Flipping someone off is an insult. Can you guys not distinguish the two?

    Attitude is obviously different from pre-fights to post-fights. they need to keep an mental edge over their opponents before the fight, but it is all different when the fight is settled. As much of an asshole is Frank Trigg, he always respected the winners after talking soem serious shit befroe the fight.
    I agree.
    The only thing I could add to this is that many fighters need that attitude to motivate them and keep that mental edge. There are a few though that have to be really pushed to get anything negative out of them.
  • 10-17-2006, 05:39 AM
    xingxing
    seriously that would be funny if liddell does that grave digging thing after he beats tito
  • 10-12-2006, 04:18 PM
    tapper
    Quote Originally Posted by chungt79
    when someone dances or jumps onto the cage, that's called celebration. Flipping someone off is an insult. Can you guys not distinguish the two?

    Attitude is obviously different from pre-fights to post-fights. they need to keep an mental edge over their opponents before the fight, but it is all different when the fight is settled. As much of an asshole is Frank Trigg, he always respected the winners after talking soem serious shit befroe the fight.

    When was the last time you saw someone praise their upcoming opponent in UFC? Thats ridiculous. but when the fight is over, you are expected the give other guy the credit.
    diego/karo
    tito/cote
  • 10-12-2006, 01:41 PM
    liddell316
    Quote Originally Posted by Jagman
    Were all of you just as offended when Randy spanked Tito?

    What about when Nick Diaz bumped Diego's head with his own head during the staredown before the fight?

    When Wanderlei does his little dance after every victory?

    What about Diego's ridiculous stare down that begins the day before at the weigh ins and lasts till the fight?

    There are many other examples of fighters doing things as well. You guys way are too sensative. Football players dance, baseball players stand at home plate and admire home run balls, basketball players scream and point after dunks and blocks, etc.... that's just the way it is in 2006. These guys know these things help identify them and give them exposure which helps them make money through fans and sponsorships. While I don't really care for the antics myself, I have no real problem with it if it is what they choose to do. As long as they fight a clean fight, or play a clean play, does it really matter that they danced before or after?

    Tito has always done the gravedigger thing, it was not just for Ken. Also, if you ask me Ken has been just as disrespectful to Tito given the fact that he had already had his a$$ kicked twice by Tito, yet he still refused to acknowledge that they were valid wins. Instead Ken talked about how he is better but he had a torn ACL, or the ref stopped it early, or Tito is till a punk, blah, blah, blah.

    Bottomline is when you lose, be a man and accept your loss. Don't make excuses. Give the other guy credit for the fight whether you like him personally or not. That is classy. Ken has never done that before this fight. That is disrepectful.
    Exactly. Guys just try and hate on Tito no matter what he does. If he had spanked Ken their would have been an outrage, but nobody thinks any less of anybody else for taunting or humiliating their opponent. Disrespectful? Yeah, but they still hate each other...don't let that fool you.
  • 10-12-2006, 06:50 AM
    Boo
    Quote Originally Posted by ddoggma
    Tito is a fucktart. He was being a asshole until he was told by his corner to shape the fuck up."Your on national TV,dumbass."Ken got his ass beat all 3 fights, but I think he looked better to real fight fans in the end. I hope Chuck mocks him while he sobs after waking up from getting KTFO!

    Screw Tito,tito.com,his shirt shit, his whore,his lame act, his no standup protege, and his whole crew. except for that mexican boxing coach. He seems kool. Probably the one that told him to shake Kens hand and stop being a PUNK!
    Hee Hee Hee, fucktart. Preach on brotha.
  • 10-12-2006, 06:36 AM
    Howie
    fuck tito ortiz
  • 10-12-2006, 05:32 AM
    UFC_TILL_MY _DEATH
    I wouldn't say Tito does the grave digger after every fight but he does often do things like that. Everyone talks about how fights are supposed to be interesting and while I too think that the flipping off was a little much and completely disrespectful, this sport is a spectator sport and Tito is young and does stupid things like that for the fans. I'm ot justifying his actions I'm just giving some reasoning behind it. As for the whole attitude towards eachother... Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Ken used to be a Professional actor.... I mean wrestler.... If you ever watch TNA impact every thursday night after the ultimate fighter it only takes 2 minutes to realize that they create rediculous story lines to ENTERTAIN people. I think thats where a lot of these stupid antics come from. But thats just me. And as far as Tito putting on the shirt that talked about punishing him into retirement.... The guy is 46 years old!!! How much longer could he go???? If that fight never happened he would have probably retired soon after that date anyways. All in all the feud should be settled now and Tito may be a little cocky but most is for the spectators and the sport not for personal gratification.
  • 10-12-2006, 12:50 AM
    duran
    Anybody else get a "deja vu all over again" feeling when the fight was stopped? At the time I could not believe it was stopped. I just did not want to have to see and listen to the whining and crying again. I was relieved when he stayed down and SHOCKED that he acknowledged in the interview that Tito beat him and actually said "I was out." I was also relieved that Shamrock was not beaten unmercifully for 3 rounds.

    Ken, "It is finished."

    It was not a competitive fight but the promotion, the anticipation and the fight was still entertaining.

    You know, I can't help but think "what goes around, comes around." I hope Tito invests his money wisely and knows when it is finished.
  • 10-12-2006, 12:24 AM
    ddoggma
    Tito is a fucktart. He was being a asshole until he was told by his corner to shape the fuck up."Your on national TV,dumbass."Ken got his ass beat all 3 fights, but I think he looked better to real fight fans in the end. I hope Chuck mocks him while he sobs after waking up from getting KTFO!

    Screw Tito,tito.com,his shirt shit, his whore,his lame act, his no standup protege, and his whole crew. except for that mexican boxing coach. He seems kool. Probably the one that told him to shake Kens hand and stop being a PUNK!
  • 10-12-2006, 12:14 AM
    bassm
    That grave digger shit after beating up an old man for the third time was stupid. It was even dumber when Kendell Grove did it. Celebrating is one thing flipping off has beens that want to just get the respect their due and ride off into the sunset is different.
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