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  • 10-13-2006, 07:51 PM
    kowarrior
    Quote Originally Posted by Donny77
    Still shocking what they pay some of their fighters.
    I wonder if Ted Turner will try to capitalize on the MMA craze and attempt to build his own MMA brand and signing mma stars. I heard a rumour about Don King going that route. Regardless, it's all speculation but I'm pretty sure we can expect to see countless MMA brands competing with the UFC over the years as the fascination gets stronger.
    The UFC is the premiere show in town for the time being. I can't see how any crooked businessman will NOT attempt to capitalize on the craze. And it's probable they'll do it by underhanded means, hoping for a quick fix and signing the top names.
    Then again, I could be completely wrong.
  • 10-13-2006, 05:37 PM
    Donny77
    Still shocking what they pay some of their fighters.
  • 10-13-2006, 04:08 PM
    Dan0
    Jwistead, you make some interesting points, and I’m sure when you say “these guys probably get transportation, accommodations, health insurance, all of that stuff paid for by the UFC” you’re probably pretty close to what really takes place, and some of it is probably required by law (medical). When you ask, ”What message are they trying to send?” we gotta wonder if, like any other form of business, that competition from other organizations may make it better for the fighters. The UFC hindering the fighters from fighting in other venues or organizations is not financially good for the fighters, but financially advantageous for the UFC.

    How many of us would want to see UFC and Pride fighters fight each other. Boxing has set a precedent by letting fighters fight for “Undisputed” belts. Just think of what the PPV numbers would be for something like that.

    Just to test the waters they could start with the winner of the Kenflo v Sherk fight go at it with Gomi. Fight in a neutral place (Brazil), that would allow combining/allowing both organizations rules so fighters from each organization would have to make adjustments to their fight plan.

    Just a thought.
  • 10-13-2006, 06:27 AM
    LethalStriker
    Tyson Griffin made $14,000 for his debut that is really good considering he is still a very young fighter and hasn't fought in any big shows beforehand other then Strikeforce. Whoever is his manager desereves a raise.
  • 10-13-2006, 01:43 AM
    kowarrior
    Hahahaha!!!! So you got PHENOMENAL UFC ppv buys where they're blowing WWE and Boxing away. But yet, the entire UFC roster combined received paycheques totalling 1/8 of what Floyd Mayweather will make for a bum opponent . Nice! Way to go Dana White!!!
    I'd love to see where all the millions of dollars in revenue is going.
  • 10-13-2006, 01:06 AM
    Annihalus
    Dana needs to open his wallet if he wants to keep the better fighters. Right now he is still benefitting from the fact that a lot of fighters have always wanted to fight in the UFC. As MMA grows there is going to be a lot less UFC loyalists and a lot more $ loyalists!
  • 10-13-2006, 12:57 AM
    BigBanda
    yeah WTF is this $2K and $3K business?!?!?..... poor guys arent ever gonna be able to move out of their parents house.
  • 10-13-2006, 12:56 AM
    jwistead
    BTW, I don't have a hard-on for Joe Lauzon... he was just the first name that popped into my head. There's a ton of other non-TUF fighters that would make for great money discussion. Even if they wanted to mix it up a little and showcase a few different fighters, you know, guys like Loiseau who only got paid 9K (apparently).
  • 10-13-2006, 12:47 AM
    jwistead
    Yeah, that 2K is retarded. Even if the UFC is actually paying more than what's listed in these press releases, they're making part time work at Mickey D's look pretty lucrative. What message are they trying to send? Bad press like this makes the guaranteed 60K annual contracts with the IFL look pretty hot to up-and-coming fighters.

    I think one thing the UFC could do to fix this problem, is reverse the bad press... because deep down inside, I think this is just an information issue, not a reality issue. In reality, I think these guys probably get transportation, accommodations, health insurance, all of that stuff paid for by the UFC (just guessing here). I'd like to know how much a fighter like Joe Lauzon *actually* makes. I couldn't give a shit whether Matt Hughes is pulling in 50K, 500K, or 5M.... he'll be fine either way. It's the Joe Lauzon's and the David Lee's that are getting obscenely low money *in the press*.

    So the UFC always says it makes life difficult for their fighters if everyone knows what they actually make. Ok, sure... I'll go along with that, just to play the devil's advocate. But the UFC doesn't need to release *every* fighters total pay to clear up this bad press issue. They could take one guy like Joe Lauzon aside, and go into great detail about how much he makes, just so they don't look so bad. Hell, they could give the guy an All Access episode. And in exchange for whatever "inconvenience" this might cause him, give him a ton of cash. That way, people find out how much money these lower tier fighters are bringing in, but at the same time, Joe Lauzon retains the mystery about how much he *actually* makes.

    If they're actually paying out *just* 2K, though... I hope the UFC burns in hell for that.
  • 10-13-2006, 12:31 AM
    JimmyMoore
    I'm with you. That is just fucking unacceptable. Fighters are eventually going to have to unionize in order to earn adequate paychecks, and with unions come politics and with politics comes corruption. The UFC will facilitate its own downfall.
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