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  • 07-05-2008, 02:55 PM
    Tick
    Quote Originally Posted by Mastiff_owner View Post
    My point exactly. Every org has their own payscale. Until we see the Affliction payscale we won't be able to compare theirs. Right now the UFC is the big dog and they have the best OVERALL paydays for their fighters. The WEC while under the Zuffa umbrella does not generate the same money as the UFC but their payroll is also higher than anyone else's. I would consider them comparable to a strikeforce or elite xc.
    We can't use the affliction payscale for awhile. I don't care if they pay all of there fightiers 100k, if they fail to make a profit as a fight league and go under in a year then it is all pointless.

    If Affliction is still around and strong 2, 3, 5 years from now, then we can use it as a comparison. Otherwise we can't.

    I think with the coming affliction event we will see the big names get paid big, but in future events the no name guys will be getting the 1k, or 2k to show/win.

    I guess the overall point I am trying to make is you cant use a company that might not last as a comparision until AFTER it has proven it will be around for awhile. This will take more than 1 event.
  • 07-03-2008, 09:46 PM
    Gmunit
    Quote Originally Posted by Dimson View Post
    I don't want to see MMA to become like boxing.....ever. I would like the top guys to get paid 1-2 million per fight eventually though.

    I meant on the high end (ie. DLH or PBF), when someone is 'forced' to give away their life (as they know it) and becomes a celebrity, they should definitely be paid accordingly


    Quote Originally Posted by Mirko45 View Post
    Are athletes overpaid? Yes, but it is a simple matter of supply a demand. If the teams have the money and the demand for success then they are going to pay whatever they need to
    I have a serious problem with that, more-so on the ownership side but I guess it just boils down to greed in our society
  • 07-03-2008, 09:21 PM
    Mirko45
    Quote Originally Posted by Gmunit View Post
    I never want to see ANYONE make the kind of money boxers do (or BB* players for that matter)






    *whichever B-Ball you care to use as an example
    Are athletes overpaid? Yes, but it is a simple matter of supply a demand. If the teams have the money and the demand for success then they are going to pay whatever they need to
  • 07-03-2008, 08:41 PM
    Dimson
    Quote Originally Posted by Gmunit View Post
    I never want to see ANYONE make the kind of money boxers do (or BB* players for that matter)






    *whichever B-Ball you care to use as an example
    I don't want to see MMA to become like boxing.....ever. I would like the top guys to get paid 1-2 million per fight eventually though.
  • 07-03-2008, 07:19 PM
    Mastiff_owner
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirko45 View Post
    MMA isn't yet on the level of other sports, so it is a little unreasonable to expect the pay to compare to boxing or something else like that
    My point exactly. Every org has their own payscale. Until we see the Affliction payscale we won't be able to compare theirs. Right now the UFC is the big dog and they have the best OVERALL paydays for their fighters. The WEC while under the Zuffa umbrella does not generate the same money as the UFC but their payroll is also higher than anyone else's. I would consider them comparable to a strikeforce or elite xc.

    ARMNHC said it best that all mma fighter pay is retardedly low, however the UFC is the only org that has had the staying power to steadily increase their pay over the last 2-3 years.

    Quality of the show, fighters, and the medium that it is given to us will determine revenue growth in the future. Pretty much every other org needs to follow (to some degree) the UFC business model if they want to be successful.
  • 07-03-2008, 07:19 PM
    Gmunit
    Quote Originally Posted by Mirko45 View Post
    MMA isn't yet on the level of other sports, so it is a little unreasonable to expect the pay to compare to boxing or something else like that
    I never want to see ANYONE make the kind of money boxers do (or BB* players for that matter)






    *whichever B-Ball you care to use as an example
  • 07-03-2008, 07:10 PM
    Mirko45
    Quote Originally Posted by ArMnHC View Post
    MMA pay overall is just atrocious
    MMA isn't yet on the level of other sports, so it is a little unreasonable to expect the pay to compare to boxing or something else like that
  • 07-03-2008, 07:05 PM
    ArMnHC
    MMA pay overall is just atrocious
  • 07-03-2008, 07:03 PM
    Gmunit
    the figures INCLUDE bonuses, so Thompson was guaranteed $25 g's then was given a win bonus of $10 g's to make his $35

    Quote Originally Posted by strife View Post
    Also Mastiff, the reason everyone bitches about UFC and not an org's like this (Strikeforce) is because UFC is the largest MMA org in the world and if you're fighting there you deserve to be payed like it. Dana claims it's the "NFL" of MMA, but you won't see any pro football player getting payed $1500 to show, $1500 to win.
    AND Strikeforce didn't make 20 million dollars on this event
  • 07-03-2008, 06:48 PM
    strife
    Quote Originally Posted by Healzyou View Post
    Is that a typo, or did Southworth's opponent really only make two-hundred dollars?
    If you read the fine print it says he received most of his pay prior to the fight.

    Also Mastiff, the reason everyone bitches about UFC and not an org's like this (Strikeforce) is because UFC is the largest MMA org in the world and if you're fighting there you deserve to be payed like it. Dana claims it's the "NFL" of MMA, but you won't see any pro football player getting payed $1500 to show, $1500 to win.
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