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  • 07-28-2008, 02:41 PM
    Tick
    Quote Originally Posted by tapper View Post
    good to hear, he did get some shitty luck but thats how it goes sometimes, i'm glad he knows that. it will make him stronger.
    They both fought twice in one night. So what was his shitty luck? Well besides getting caught?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ramma View Post
    Agreed. I also think that a rubber match between Aoki and Hansen is a must at this point.

    There are so many rematches and new matches I want to see in DREAM.
    Rubber match or take on the winner of Hansen vs Alverez? I can see if it was a close fight and Hansen got a questionable decision to have a rubber match, but he knocked Aoki out. Let Alverez get his shot at the title like he should of had, and have Aoki wait in the back ground or have a #1 contenders type match with someone. And the winners of those two fights take each other on.

    I just do not see the point of a rubber match, when it leaves Alverez waiting for his chance to get what was rightfully his, and by that I mean a title shot.
  • 07-28-2008, 01:22 AM
    thefirm0
    it's not like alvarez stopped hansen, plus alvarez said hansen deserved to be his replacement! hansen is a deserving champion and i think he would win a rematch with alvarez , as far as aoki goes i hope he comes back gangbusters and dominates. nothing gets me more excited then a hometown hero winning it all in his stadium.
  • 07-27-2008, 11:55 PM
    Ramma
    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisAM View Post
    Agree, I want to see Alvarez vs Hansen 2 next. Aoki will get that belt eventually though, one of my favorite fighters to watch.
    Agreed. I also think that a rubber match between Aoki and Hansen is a must at this point.

    There are so many rematches and new matches I want to see in DREAM.
  • 07-27-2008, 11:51 PM
    tapper
    good to hear, he did get some shitty luck but thats how it goes sometimes, i'm glad he knows that. it will make him stronger.
  • 07-27-2008, 10:10 PM
    lilp86
    Quote Originally Posted by jlruthven84 View Post
    They said it was to the back of the neck, which I think is still an illegal blow under DREAM's rules. Either way, it did seem a bit sketchy.

    And yeah, Alvarez seems to be the rising LW representative for the organization. I don't think Aoki is going to be champ as long as Eddie's around.
    It looked like the back of the shoulder to me Im with Mac I lost a ton of respect for Aoki after that I mean hes an exciting fighter but Imo he has no heart I may get flamed for that but its just how I feel
  • 07-27-2008, 08:34 PM
    AJL416AZ
    for Grand Prix format, i would also prefer separated matchups so the fighters can have separate camps for each fight

    but the problem for the promoters is that the 2-fight 1-day format works better for them because it shortens the length of the tournament. over the course of the tournament he has a total lack of quality fights for an entire weight class to put on fight cards.

    so the best solution to me, is the Bushido 9 format
    the quarter and then the semifinals in the same day, finals 3 months later barring any major injuries.
  • 07-27-2008, 08:21 PM
    Catalyst
    I cried after the fight because I knew my fans and supporters, who were looking forward to seeing me winning the tournament, were disappointed. In addition, when my teammates told me that I did my best, more tears came up to my eyes.

    now, I've got nothing but respect for Aoki, he's one of my favorite fighters... but come on! dude cries after every fight, lol!

    anyway, I'm always impressed with Aoki, and I hope to see him come back with some improved striking defense... otherwise, Hansen just showed everyone the weakness in Aoki's armor, and his days at the top could be numbered... I know JZ couldn't finish Aoki when he tried, in virtually the same manner, but I think it takes away alot of Aoki's mystique and perceived invincibility to see him KO'd like this...
  • 07-27-2008, 07:26 PM
    Diegonightmare
    Quote Originally Posted by jlruthven84
    I don't think Aoki is going to be champ as long as Eddie's around.
    Maybe, maybe not. I want to see both of them fully healthy, fighting each other.

    Aoki is very easy to underestimate because he's so slight and wiry and is one of the few basically one-dimensional fighters still fighting at the top levels of MMA. It's easy to imagine that Alvarez could just blast him out, but Aoki is like a serpent that grabs ahold of you and immediately immerses you in coil after coil, controlling you and avoiding any damage, while all the way threatening to strangle you to death.
  • 07-27-2008, 07:23 PM
    jlruthven84
    Quote Originally Posted by Mac View Post
    Alvarez represents Dream! Aoki is a good fighter but he lost me after the first fight with JZ. He looked like he was losing and took a flop on the phantom shot to the back of his head or whatever area they called illegal.
    They said it was to the back of the neck, which I think is still an illegal blow under DREAM's rules. Either way, it did seem a bit sketchy.

    And yeah, Alvarez seems to be the rising LW representative for the organization. I don't think Aoki is going to be champ as long as Eddie's around.
  • 07-27-2008, 06:30 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by Diegonightmare View Post

    Just to clarify DREAM'S rules (I'm not disagreeing with you), the fighter that lost the semifinal to the fighter unable to continue in the finals is the first candidate to replace him in the finals; but they have a rule that if that fighter got stopped in the semis - KO, TKO or submission - that he's ineligible and they move to the winner of the alternate match, which is why Hansen did get the fight instead of Kawajiri.
    Oh I did not know that was the rule. Thanks for clarifing.
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