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  • 06-21-2006, 12:10 PM
    #1taz
    I'm pretty sure that the guys and Dana would have figured out by the time the show was done taping if Tito was just faking it....and the results speak for themselves.

    Dana even said it at he end...Tito acted like a professional, came to train the guys, and really put his heart into it all...Ken came for the cash and to get a chance to fight Tito and was just goofing off.

    And if Shamrock is the better fighter...why didn't he get a 3 PPV guarantee or anything else?

    Once he fights Tito..he isn't even guaranteed to even get his parking validated.

    Besides getting paid to do TUF...Tito was guaranteed a fight with Forest, a fight with Ken, and in august he gets a fight with Chuck or whoever holds the title then...plus gets to go 3 rounds sparring with Dana.
  • 06-21-2006, 09:56 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by Afro Samurai
    that guy on TUF was awesome other then the comments he made about retiring Ken and I would of liked that guy as a fighter, but the Tito we see in the MMA.. the Tito we are gonna see fight Ken I dont like one bit.
    everything tito said and did on the show was a fucking act for the cameras.
  • 06-21-2006, 09:02 AM
    Afro
    Tito was tryna provoke him man.. u didnt hear him?

    now granted what Tito was sayin did not call for the kinda reaction Ken gave, but Tito was make smart remarks throughout the show.
  • 06-21-2006, 08:10 AM
    #1taz
    I have to agree with it not being cool that Tito said he was going to retire Ken...but you also have to understand that no one likes to have their punk card repeatedly thrown out at them...especially in front of the guys over and over on national TV.

    Ken had no right at all to ever get in Tito's face in front of the guys and on camera in front of the fans....that was crossing way over the line and very unprofessional.

    Tito kept his word to Dana, kept his cool pretty well, and never got in Ken's face or tried to provoke him once...even after Dana and Ken set him up and hosed him at pool in front of the guys and on camera.

    Tito just got tired of all of the negative crap and lost it when Ken got physical as he was walking by and then Ken starting talking crap again.

    IMO..Shamrock made a fool out of himself and lost a lot of respect for himself and his team....not to mention that all of this negative BS from TUF isn't going to help promote his Lion's Den training academy much.

    All things considered...it was just a pretty lame way for Ken to act.
  • 06-21-2006, 12:41 AM
    Afro
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimuras"R"Us
    I compare Tito to an Alice Cooper character... This might be a little dated (I'm only 22 but I thought of it right away)... Alice was a big rock bad ass, acting insane on stage, doing crazy things to get in the media.. but out of the limelight he's supposed to be the nicest, most normal (scratch golfer) around... I think "The Huntingbeach Bad Boy" (sorry if i misspelled that) is the persona, just the character much like a pro wrestler... He's there to sell tickets and get people talking and to make money... I think "Tito" was the guy you saw on TUF, the nicer guy who gave a shit about his kids.
    that guy on TUF was awesome other then the comments he made about retiring Ken and I would of liked that guy as a fighter, but the Tito we see in the MMA.. the Tito we are gonna see fight Ken I dont like one bit.
  • 06-21-2006, 12:25 AM
    Kimuras"R"Us
    Quote Originally Posted by Afro Samurai
    my only problem with the show is, yes it was an awful showing for Ken but people are basing entire opinions off of a reality show.. how can you say Ken is more of an ass then Tito based offa one show.. I cant do that, see my first impression of Tito was when he beat Guy Mezger.. I hated that little antic he did after the fight, I hated how he flicked off the Lions den, I hated his interviews when he was talkin smack.. I find it disrespectful that he says hes gonna "retire" Ken, just like if a LB says hes gonna retire a HOF RB it would be a disrespectful comment to make. I honestly think Tito is worst then Ken, I dont think Ken is a saint at all.. im less of a fan but no way do I think hes worst then Tito.. Ken was wrong for sayin Tito put on an act on the show but at the same time you cant blame him, cuz Tito does NOT conduct himself that way in the UFC he sells himself on the UFC for money with his bad-boy routine and you know I feel im gonna follow along, if Tito wants to be the guy everyone loves to hate then dammit ima love to hate him.
    I compare Tito to an Alice Cooper character... This might be a little dated (I'm only 22 but I thought of it right away)... Alice was a big rock bad ass, acting insane on stage, doing crazy things to get in the media.. but out of the limelight he's supposed to be the nicest, most normal (scratch golfer) around... I think "The Huntingbeach Bad Boy" (sorry if i misspelled that) is the persona, just the character much like a pro wrestler... He's there to sell tickets and get people talking and to make money... I think "Tito" was the guy you saw on TUF, the nicer guy who gave a shit about his kids.
  • 06-20-2006, 11:42 PM
    Afro
    my only problem with the show is, yes it was an awful showing for Ken but people are basing entire opinions off of a reality show.. how can you say Ken is more of an ass then Tito based offa one show.. I cant do that, see my first impression of Tito was when he beat Guy Mezger.. I hated that little antic he did after the fight, I hated how he flicked off the Lions den, I hated his interviews when he was talkin smack.. I find it disrespectful that he says hes gonna "retire" Ken, just like if a LB says hes gonna retire a HOF RB it would be a disrespectful comment to make. I honestly think Tito is worst then Ken, I dont think Ken is a saint at all.. im less of a fan but no way do I think hes worst then Tito.. Ken was wrong for sayin Tito put on an act on the show but at the same time you cant blame him, cuz Tito does NOT conduct himself that way in the UFC he sells himself on the UFC for money with his bad-boy routine and you know I feel im gonna follow along, if Tito wants to be the guy everyone loves to hate then dammit ima love to hate him.
  • 06-20-2006, 11:29 PM
    Kimuras"R"Us
    Quote Originally Posted by Big Daddy Duker
    I can agree with that. TUF 3 was not a good showing for Mr. Shamrock. As I discussed in an earlier post, however, I don't think it was a great showing for Tito either (though he probably came out looking better than Ken). I'm always a little weary of judging poeple based on reality television, as it can be edited to deliver whatever message the producers etc. want it to. It's certainly possible that now that Dana and Tito have mended fences, Dana (or some other higher up) wants to paint Tito as the "face" and Shamrock as the "heel", and aired only clips which would serve that end.
    Yeah that's a good point about editing and definitely needs to be taken into account when watching reality TV.

    Bonus points for using wrestling terms (face, heel)
  • 06-20-2006, 11:27 PM
    Big Daddy Duker
    Quote Originally Posted by Kimuras"R"Us
    All good points, I just feel as though Shamrock wasn't as aggresive as he could've been and I guess that's why I really didn't like him in that fight... I still think Gracie taps him out if they fought a third time. That could just be due to TUF though, the way Ken conducted himself really affected how I feel about him in general.
    I can agree with that. TUF 3 was not a good showing for Mr. Shamrock. As I discussed in an earlier post, however, I don't think it was a great showing for Tito either (though he probably came out looking better than Ken). I'm always a little weary of judging poeple based on reality television, as it can be edited to deliver whatever message the producers etc. want it to. It's certainly possible that now that Dana and Tito have mended fences, Dana (or some other higher up) wants to paint Tito as the "face" and Shamrock as the "heel", and aired only clips which would serve that end.
  • 06-20-2006, 11:07 PM
    Kimuras"R"Us
    Quote Originally Posted by Afro Samurai
    how did Ken conduct himself? I missed that fight.
    There's just the way Ken carries himself sometimes that I don't like... It's like little body language things that some people wouldn't notice, I just think he's an asshole a lot of the time.
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