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  • 06-27-2006, 11:33 PM
    WandAXE
    Quote Originally Posted by killerinstinct
    Vince is a good guy i wouldn't say he uses people.
    Tito is a piece of shit him and chuck were never that close according to chuck.Tito didn't want to fight chuck b/c he's a coward and didn't want to lose his title.
    As far as the old UFC sharing the wealth i have it on good authority that Tank Abott would fight for free back in those days.
    I think i might agree with 9% of the shit you said the othe 91% is over exaggerated,ridiculous or just plain wrong.
    Every one in the sports world and sports entertainment will tell you that Vince is a evil person. Do you even know how many people he actually fuckd over in his past to get were he is today . You are only 16 so in 96 97 you were only 6 or 7 so I really dont belive anything you have to say about Vince.
  • 06-27-2006, 05:14 PM
    WorldsMostDangerousMan
    what a bunch of idiots
  • 06-27-2006, 10:00 AM
    Glen903

    Do research

    Shamrock was wwf so was Dan Sevren both are hall of fame UFC.
  • 06-21-2006, 12:43 PM
    #1taz
    To say Vince is a nice guy and has never taken advantage of, screwed over, or used any wrestler is just ridiculous...so I won't even bother to discuss that...FFS.

    To say that Tito and Chuck were never close..when they used to train together, help prepare each other for fights before they both got famous, and they were both managed by Dana way back early in their careers...well that just makes no sense.

    And if a fighter holds out for money and refuses fights because the cash is too low...that doesn't make him a coward....it means he has good business sense.

    Anybody knows that lots of other professional athletes get paid way more than any fighter in the ufc ever has....even though the ufc has been making large amounts of money since the new owners took over...for a long while now.

    And Tank Abott has fought people while he was drunk as hell in an alley behind a bar for free too lots of times...so what's your point?
  • 06-21-2006, 10:06 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by #1taz
    It just seems to me that any athlete today that has a little backbone and some business sense gets clobbered by management and they get intentionally portrayed poorly in the press.

    Goldberg was no great wrestler (or actor either...lol)...but when he wanted a little control of how he was portrayed on the air and demanded a fair share of merchandising...he got dumped on in the old wcw and again in the wwe.

    Lots of pro wrestlers have been hosed by Vince for years and have wound up crippled, broke, or dead.

    Tito had the same thing happen to him in the ufc. Back when Dana was his and Chuck's manager in the old UFC...he was promised that he wouldn't ever have to fight Chuck because they were very good friends and trained together so much they were like family. When the old ufc did good...they shared their good fortune with the guys that were working hard to bring in the fans and make everyone money.

    Along came new owners, Dana moved up the corporate ladder handing off Tito and Chuck's management to someone else...and that promise was suddenly gone...and so was the perks.

    So when the ufc started making more money...Tito demanded a piece of the profits he had worked his butt off for and refused to fight Chuck...expecting the ufc and Dana to be fair. Then he got dumped on.

    Other fighters have gotten the same treatment in other MMA organizations too.

    It is obvious that owners and management see these athletes as property or just another commodity...and really don't give a damn about their careers, their families, or their futures.

    They leave people no other choice but to be backstabbing "yes-men", to play some rough backstage and locker room politics, to hide injuries and take unnecessary risks, and to use whatever they can get away with to stay in the spotlight and compete.

    And if any of them try to stick up for themselves...they get screwed out of everthing they have worked hard for and forced out.

    Maybe they should all get together and form a union or something...because it is ridiculous how crappy they get treated.
    Vince is a good guy i wouldn't say he uses people.
    Tito is a piece of shit him and chuck were never that close according to chuck.Tito didn't want to fight chuck b/c he's a coward and didn't want to lose his title.
    As far as the old UFC sharing the wealth i have it on good authority that Tank Abott would fight for free back in those days.
    I think i might agree with 9% of the shit you said the othe 91% is over exaggerated,ridiculous or just plain wrong.
  • 06-21-2006, 09:59 AM
    Salvy_Mic
    I am actually in the unique position of being an MMA fan, a wrestling fan, and a boxing fan all at once. How, some of you diehards may ask? Well, it's because I'm able to put each into it's own context. I know what to expect from each one, and it's not going to remain the same for any of the others. I simply don't expect takedowns in a boxing match, one punch knockouts in wrestling, or Stone Cold Stunners in an MMA fight, and that's how I enjoy each one.

    However, I do believe there are some people in wrestling who could have easily crossed over into MMA if they had done it at a good age. Right of the top of my head, I would say Kurt Angle, Bret Hart, Chris Benoit, Taz, William Regal, and even the Undertaker could have crossed over into MMA at a younger age, closer to their prime and have had some success. Angle is a world-class freestyle wrestler with phenomenal athleticism, work ethic, intelligence, and power, and for damn sure, a ton of heart. Hart, Benoit, Regal, and Taz were all proficient in the same catch wrestling that another former pro wrestler named Kazushi Sakuraba was proficient in and used to great success. Taz himself, I believe, is a legit judo black belt. As for Taker, he's a huge MMA fan who is remarkably athletic for a man his size and could easily immerse himself into MMA and become good at it. That, and he dabbles a bit as it is in his advanced age in both boxing and BJJ that he is more than comfortable showing it in any of his wrestling matches. At a younger age, Taker could have done MMA and done very well.

    And then there's a lot of MMA guys who could do very well in wrestling. Shamrock was already there and did very well for the time he was there. Tito Ortiz, Andrei Arlovski, Aleksander Emelianenko, Rampage, and Mayhem Miller all have either the right look or the right personality or the right mentality, or a combination of all three to succeed in pro wrestling.
  • 06-21-2006, 05:57 AM
    killerinstinct
    Quote Originally Posted by yerfdog76
    The funniest post was where someone suggested that one of the "rasslers"
    could climb up on top of the cage and do a double stomp on someone's chest. "Let's see a UFC guy take that" was the quote...

    BBWWHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAAHHHAAAA That just shows you how immature and ignorant the average "rasslin" fan is.

    Personally I would LOVE it if one of those actors tried something like climbing the cage... That is one PPV I wouldn't miss.

    Those idiots just don't get "it". When the WWF had to change it's name, it changed it to WWE... (ENTERTAINMENT) How blatant is that...

    Only a child or a slowmo believes in that crap....
    most wrestling fans know the outcomes of the matches are pretedermined ,but that doesn't mean it's not exciting.It's just like kung fu movies are most movies for that matter they're fake ,but that doesn't mean they're not enjoyable.
  • 06-20-2006, 12:10 PM
    #1taz
    Tito made the tragic mistake of thinking other people would stand with him and back him up when he battled with the ufc...and if the worst thing he did was demand to have more say in who his opponents were going to be and demand he get paid a fair portion of what the ufc was making off of his skills... then that makes him a smart strong-willed businessman - not a fool, a wimp, or a coward.

    Tito surely is far from being a saint...but you have to give him credit for having some sense and some backbone.

    And in the end it sure paid off for him...because he got to come back and sign a 3 PPV fight contract for better money than what he was paid before, got to coach TUF and prove his worth as a trainer (which is seriously got to be great for his own business by hugely promoting him and his training academy), and now he also gets a chance to headline and kick the crap out of Ken Shamrock on a ufc PPV - plus gets to spar 3 rounds with Dana as a bonus.

    You at least have got to give him some respect for being the only guy in the ufc that could do that.
  • 06-19-2006, 02:34 PM
    Clint
    Man I agree with what you're saying completely, but I think Tito is a bad example because he went about it all the wrong way. He refused to defend the title without being paid more even though he was in the middle of a 6 fight contract and then after the contract was over was trying to demand almost double the pay of the LHW champion at the time (Couture)
  • 06-19-2006, 12:19 PM
    #1taz
    It just seems to me that any athlete today that has a little backbone and some business sense gets clobbered by management and they get intentionally portrayed poorly in the press.

    Goldberg was no great wrestler (or actor either...lol)...but when he wanted a little control of how he was portrayed on the air and demanded a fair share of merchandising...he got dumped on in the old wcw and again in the wwe.

    Lots of pro wrestlers have been hosed by Vince for years and have wound up crippled, broke, or dead.

    Tito had the same thing happen to him in the ufc. Back when Dana was his and Chuck's manager in the old UFC...he was promised that he wouldn't ever have to fight Chuck because they were very good friends and trained together so much they were like family. When the old ufc did good...they shared their good fortune with the guys that were working hard to bring in the fans and make everyone money.

    Along came new owners, Dana moved up the corporate ladder handing off Tito and Chuck's management to someone else...and that promise was suddenly gone...and so was the perks.

    So when the ufc started making more money...Tito demanded a piece of the profits he had worked his butt off for and refused to fight Chuck...expecting the ufc and Dana to be fair. Then he got dumped on.

    Other fighters have gotten the same treatment in other MMA organizations too.

    It is obvious that owners and management see these athletes as property or just another commodity...and really don't give a damn about their careers, their families, or their futures.

    They leave people no other choice but to be backstabbing "yes-men", to play some rough backstage and locker room politics, to hide injuries and take unnecessary risks, and to use whatever they can get away with to stay in the spotlight and compete.

    And if any of them try to stick up for themselves...they get screwed out of everthing they have worked hard for and forced out.

    Maybe they should all get together and form a union or something...because it is ridiculous how crappy they get treated.
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