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  • 10-04-2010, 08:57 PM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    Agree it should be from the closed fist as who punches with their fingers streached not to effective unless to the eyes.
    Kevin Burns
  • 10-04-2010, 08:17 PM
    joeyP
    I always feel like you should reach your arms straight up and measure from the ground to your knuckes. I don't know, when I originally thought of reach that's what came to mind.
  • 10-04-2010, 05:06 PM
    lwbrewer
    It is a base to judge from thats about it. The measurement should be cut in half still not right but closer to the truth, Agree it should be from the closed fist as who punches with their fingers streached not to effective unless to the eyes. Getting qualified judges is priority first IMO
  • 10-04-2010, 04:52 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Quote Originally Posted by TBEAR View Post
    I think it is measured wrong. Why use finger tips. IMO it should be from the center of the chest to the end of a closed fist.

    Plus, when you go across someone entire back and chest (like you said) it can easliy skew the results.
    from a pure striking stand point yes, dont measure the hand length to the finger, measure the fist but hand size does matter for takedowns, look how far out jones can be while wrapping his hands around his opponents back and throwing them.

    why would measuring across the whole back or chest skew the results if they did that to everyone, unless somebody has an odd back or chest which it is longer on one side. fighters dont stand square and when you throw your punch and sit into it and rotate your torse you get that extra length on your punches.
  • 10-04-2010, 04:44 PM
    The Return Of......
    hahaha

    we have had countless discussions on this with the people i watch the fights with.

    yes, it is a joke the way they measure reach, they are really not measuring a true reach advantage
  • 10-04-2010, 04:29 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    some people have wider chests, backs and shoulders that HAVE to be included into their reach, when you rotate your torso into your shots. Unless you want to use arm punches...
  • 10-04-2010, 09:24 AM
    TBEAR
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    I didn't find a thread on it, but do you think the current way of measuring reach is accurate? i.e. by measuring wingspan.

    I don't know why it makes any sense to measure the person's chest along with the arms. This inflates reach unnecessarily. Some people have wider chests and may not have the reach advantage people boast about. Two people that come to mind are GSP and Lesnar who have pretty wide chests for their weight class. They probably each have a reach advantage but may be not to the magnitude mentioned in the tale of the tape.

    Thoughts?
    I think it is measured wrong. Why use finger tips. IMO it should be from the center of the chest to the end of a closed fist.

    Plus, when you go across someone entire back and chest (like you said) it can easliy skew the results.
  • 10-04-2010, 07:09 AM
    GL Jeff
    I have a 77inch reach then, Not bad I guess. But Jones is a freak at 85,lol. But is he really known for his striking? Its not like he uses a jab often. Maybe if he works on the double jap,it would be put to good use.
  • 10-04-2010, 06:38 AM
    v3xi
    The width of the torso affects reach. Not to the same proportion that arm length contributes to reach but it does increase it. Your torso is turning into the punch every time you throw and the angle connecting from your mid chest to shoulder increases the distance from the shoulders to the knuckles.

    This does not mean that if your reach is 70" that you can actually reach out 35" on one of your arms. Try it yourself and extend your fist out as far as you can then imagine doing the same thing with your chest width only being a foot across instead, you would have far less rotation and therefor your reach would be less with a foot wide chest than a 3 foot wide chest like Brock has.
  • 10-04-2010, 06:14 AM
    mmawolverine
    having a wider chest is an advantage in reach seeing as how most effective striking includes torso movement and extension
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