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  • 10-08-2010, 08:52 PM
    stpierrecanada
    I did give the first round to Manny.

    Manny did a great job and gave Aldo a harder time then anyone else has so far.
  • 10-08-2010, 03:20 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Quote Originally Posted by v3xi View Post
    I disagree 100%. First off it is straight up retarded to give the 1st round to your opponent in a 3 round fight when anything can happen in MMA. Secondly its not a common tactic, its an excuse fighters with big egos make to justify a crappy round.
    WTF are you talking about, you've never heard of feeling out your opponent? You've seen a lot of great fighters over the years do that and it is a common tactic for some fighters in almost any form of martial arts. get their timing down, find weak points in their defense, learn some of their tendencys, get their movement down and find your range. Aldo didnt lose the first round and only an idiot would think that, manny flapping his arms around and connecting with air, and aldo landing some very good kicks.

    I think it was misunderstood what he said. He never lost the first round, but he didnt go to finish in it and he used it to feel manny out. We've seen him win every witch way. He can come out and destroy somebody fast in the first, he can dominate the entire fight, and he can feel somebody out before he finishes them. He can just go out and destroy people but that is when mistakes are made and when upsets happen, when you throw caution to the wind no matter how skilled you are. Fell the fighter out and attack when he leaves himself open.

    look at anderson's fights with franklin, irvin, and forrest, he doesnt take the full round, but he doesnt come out ultra aggressive and he gets their timing, and movement down. Especially against forrest, he just clowned him with his hands and he had irvins movement down, moved with the kick, caught it and landed a great right.
  • 10-08-2010, 08:29 AM
    Rumble
    The guy has crushed the competition in his weight class. WEC has arguably the most talented FW's in the sport and he's taken them out no problem. The only people really left for him to fight in the WEC are Josh Grispi (IF he wins his next fight) and possibly Mark Hominick. Chad Mendes has done well recently, but poses no real threat to Aldo and and once again needs to win his next fight in order to prove where he is in terms of contention.

    So with the next FW contender pretty much being a cluster fuck and Aldo already beating the top dogs in his division, in arguably the best organization in terms of FW competition, I think it would be safe to put him in top 5 P4P rankings.
  • 10-08-2010, 06:24 AM
    goodtimes
    Testing your opponent in the first round to see how they react and what kind of attacks they like to make so you can exploit an observed weakness has worked very well for lots of top fighters. Questioning the strategy Aldo has used to beat almost every top FW in the world based on almost nothing is pretty ridiculous. It's basically the same strategy Anderson Silva has used to be the most dominant fighter in the UFC as well.
  • 10-07-2010, 05:38 PM
    Chute_Boxe44
    [QUOTE=YukonJordan;760130]I didn't mean that you should throw the first round and neither did Aldo. I meant that sometimes it's advantageous to semi sit back in the first round and see what your opponent has to offer in order to figure them out.

    I agree with your assessment of his P4P standing though. He has looked great so far but has yet to consistently prove himself against top flight competition.[/QUOTE]

    hahaha what are you talking about?? The man is on an 11 fight winning streak and has beat everyone the WEC has put in front of him in devastating fashion. Who else does the guy have to beat in the division to prove himself? You just can't please some people haha
  • 10-07-2010, 05:10 PM
    Dan
    Quote Originally Posted by bottlerocks View Post
    5 rounds in a title fight.



    Who else would he have to beat at his weight for him to impress you and "deserve" to talk like a p4p best? You do know that Machida is still considered top 10 p4p right? I wouldn't call that incineration.
    I agree with you man. Just because Machida lost his title to Shogun doesn't mean that we shouldnt still respect him as a great fighter. If Aldo lost his next fight, it wouldn't mean I respect him any less, as he's still an amazing fighter, and definitely (IMO) a top 5 P4P fighter.
  • 10-07-2010, 04:50 PM
    YukonJordan
    Quote Originally Posted by v3xi View Post
    I disagree 100%. First off it is straight up retarded to give the 1st round to your opponent in a 3 round fight when anything can happen in MMA. Secondly its not a common tactic, its an excuse fighters with big egos make to justify a crappy round. This isn't Ali vs Foreman; there are no 12 rounds. There is not much room for a feeling out process unless you call the first 90 seconds of a MMA fight a feeling out process.

    Aldo's mental weaknesses are already showing just by how he talks in interviews lately and I don't care if everyone on here disagrees with me. Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida.
    I didn't mean that you should throw the first round and neither did Aldo. I meant that sometimes it's advantageous to semi sit back in the first round and see what your opponent has to offer in order to figure them out.

    I agree with your assessment of his P4P standing though. He has looked great so far but has yet to consistently prove himself against top flight competition.
  • 10-07-2010, 04:39 AM
    v3xi
    My mistake, for some reason I forgot it was a 5 round fight so it is legitimate that he set him up for round 2 just like A Silva set up Chael in round 4 and sub'd him in round 5. If Aldo claimed this in a 3 round fight it would be BS and I stand by that even though it wasn't the case. Oops.

    I don't think WEC has that deep of a field to test Aldo so I can't put him in the P4P rankings. Faber is kind of the Rich Franklin / Liddel catagory of great fighters that are getting surpassed by the new smarter / athletic fighters that are coming into MMA now that you can make some decent money and gain some notoriety.

    Just because you don't like how's he's becoming cocky shouldn't take away from his achievements.
    His attitude and ability have nothing to do with each other. I question his "achievements" at this point in his career. I think he has potential and we all know he is an exciting fighter in the #1 or #2 camp in MMA but I just don't think he has fought solid enough competition to have him in P4P discussion. No one knew his name a year ago and now hes top 5 P4P apparently, that should tell you something right there.

    WEC weight classes are still as deep as a mud puddle and like I said, Aldo is still a kid with a lot to learn. I can see him being the next Anderson but calling that right now is just jumping the gun too early.

    If you guys want to talk about Brazilian knockout artists who should be higher on P4P rankings lets talk about JDS instead.
  • 10-06-2010, 03:15 PM
    TBEAR
    Quote Originally Posted by v3xi View Post

    Aldo's mental weaknesses are already showing just by how he talks in interviews lately and I don't care if everyone on here disagrees with me. Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida.
    Are you high????? Not top 15???? Your statement is batshit crazy!!!!!!!!

    Aldo is in my top 5 P4P
  • 10-06-2010, 03:00 PM
    TN94z
    Quote Originally Posted by v3xi View Post
    He won the first round didn't he? I like how he threw that uppercut when he knew he was going to get shot on, more people should do that to wrestlers but then I guess that leaves you open for a fake take down overhead right KO if your not careful.
    That's why boxing teaches you to cover with the left when you throw the right and vice versa


    Quote Originally Posted by v3xi View Post
    I disagree 100%. First off it is straight up retarded to give the 1st round to your opponent in a 3 round fight when anything can happen in MMA. Secondly its not a common tactic, its an excuse fighters with big egos make to justify a crappy round. This isn't Ali vs Foreman; there are no 12 rounds. There is not much room for a feeling out process unless you call the first 90 seconds of a MMA fight a feeling out process.

    Aldo's mental weaknesses are already showing just by how he talks in interviews lately and I don't care if everyone on here disagrees with me. Hes not top 15 P4P, he is a talented fighter with miles of road still ahead of him and he is already talking in ways that Fedor / GSP / A Silva NEVER do but have earned the right to if they so choose. I was a big Aldo fan and I still enjoy his fights but I am going to stay clear of the bandwagon before it incinerates, just like I did with Machida.
    There are a ton of fighters that use the 1st round as a feeling out round in 5 round fights. It's not necessarily "giving" the round away. They may still end up winning the round, but they are only feeling out the other fighter. Fighters do this all of the time.

    What "mental weakness" have you noticed in his interviews? The only weakness I have seen from him is the division he fights in.
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