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  • 10-19-2010, 07:06 PM
    CHAEL fan
    Quote Originally Posted by Chute_Boxe44 View Post
    As of right now Lytle makes the most sense for Condit. Even with such an impressive KO I still feel he's a few spots away from the top five. I have felt Hardy is overrated for a long time and this fight has finally proved it, so beating him doesn't catapult you into top five spot in my eyes.

    As someone alluded to earlier, I felt the Ellenberger fight could have gone either way and that he was getting schooled by MacDonald up until the third. So because of this he is still one fight away from fighting a top five contender in my eyes.

    A win over a grisly veteran like Lytle would set him up for a top five fighter in the division. It could be a number of different people Fitch, Sheilds, Kampman rematch, Kos or even GSP depending on how the divisions play out over the next 4-5 months. Either way the welter weight division is really starting to heat up with alot of hungry up and comers. Who knows, maybe we'll see Hughs make another run haha.
    This....well said.
  • 10-19-2010, 05:17 PM
    Frasedog
    He just beat a former title contender in Hardy. Makes sense to have him fight the winner of Kampman vs. Shields as a title eliminator. Or the loser would be okay too I guess. Either way its an interesting matchup since they would both be rematches. Condit is dangerous and on a roll right now. Get the man a title shot asap!
  • 10-19-2010, 05:08 PM
    Chute_Boxe44
    Quote Originally Posted by slvrdragon View Post
    I think one guy was left off of this list that would also make sense is Matt Hughes. Hughes just beat a very game Almeida, is on a win streak, is a HUGE name, and no matter who wins definately puts either fighter in contention. Plus a fight with Fitch, as said before, would take another potential fighter out of contention for no good reason.
    Hughes has BJ to worry about in November
  • 10-19-2010, 05:03 PM
    slvrdragon
    I think one guy was left off of this list that would also make sense is Matt Hughes. Hughes just beat a very game Almeida, is on a win streak, is a HUGE name, and no matter who wins definately puts either fighter in contention. Plus a fight with Fitch, as said before, would take another potential fighter out of contention for no good reason.
  • 10-19-2010, 04:33 PM
    foutch550
    Quote Originally Posted by Chute_Boxe44 View Post
    nah I've got to disagree with that. Condit has never been known to have knock out power in his hands, and to see him drop Hardy like that says alot more about Hardy's chin and carelessness then Condits abilities as a fighter.

    I mainly view it this way because Hardy is suppose to be the guy who can KO people and take peoples heads off. Which is funny to me because the only KO he has in the UFC is against a can in Rory Markham. So to see him demolished by someone whos strongest attribute is not his hands is just funny to me and finally takes him out of the top ten with his padded record.
    I guess personally I just learned more about Condit than Hardy in this fight. Altho Hardy's only KO win in the UFC was vs. Markham, Condit hadn't exactly been lighting it up in the UFC either with a split loss vs. Kampmann, a split win vs. Ellenberger and being dominated for 2 rounds vs. MacDonald. Comparing what he did in the WEC doesnt necessarily transfer into UFC-credit. I wont discount Hardy's chin after being KO'd for the 1st time in his career. That's why I said I'd be interested to see Hardy's next fight.
  • 10-19-2010, 04:32 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Winner of Diego Sanchez/Paulo Thiago
    Loser of Kampmann/Shields
  • 10-19-2010, 04:14 PM
    Chute_Boxe44
    Quote Originally Posted by foutch550 View Post
    Agreed. But imo, we've recently found out more about Condit than we did about Hardy in this fight. Depending on Hardy's next fight, I think we'll see if Hardy is in fact overrated....assuming the UFC gives Hardy someone relevant. Its hard to deny though that Hardy's a tough SOB and getting a KO over him certainly looks good on Condit's resume.
    nah I've got to disagree with that. Condit has never been known to have knock out power in his hands, and to see him drop Hardy like that says alot more about Hardy's chin and carelessness then Condits abilities as a fighter.

    I mainly view it this way because Hardy is suppose to be the guy who can KO people and take peoples heads off. Which is funny to me because the only KO he has in the UFC is against a can in Rory Markham. So to see him demolished by someone whos strongest attribute is not his hands is just funny to me and finally takes him out of the top ten with his padded record.
  • 10-19-2010, 04:12 PM
    Sick_Lunatic
    IMO, he's ready for a top 5 (or at least top 10) WW.

    He just beat the last #1 contender in Hardy (although hardy only got the shot because no other fresh challengers were around).

    Condit vs Kos (assuming Kos loses) or Condit vs Fitch make the most sense.

    Or even if Sheilds has a boring hump-fest against Kampman, it may be such an uninspiring performance (ala Fitch) he may not get the shot at GSP next. Which sets up Condit vs GSP, because nobody else is around.

    Vs Hughes would be good too.
  • 10-19-2010, 03:38 PM
    foutch550
    Quote Originally Posted by Chute_Boxe44 View Post
    As someone alluded to earlier, I felt the Ellenberger fight could have gone either way and that he was getting schooled by MacDonald up until the third. So because of this he is still one fight away from fighting a top five contender in my eyes.

    A win over a grisly veteran like Lytle would set him up for a top five fighter in the division. It could be a number of different people Fitch, Sheilds, Kampman rematch, Kos or even GSP depending on how the divisions play out over the next 4-5 months. Either way the welter weight division is really starting to heat up with alot of hungry up and comers. Who knows, maybe we'll see Hughs make another run haha.
    Agreed. But imo, we've recently found out more about Condit than we did about Hardy in this fight. Depending on Hardy's next fight, I think we'll see if Hardy is in fact overrated....assuming the UFC gives Hardy someone relevant. Its hard to deny though that Hardy's a tough SOB and getting a KO over him certainly looks good on Condit's resume.
  • 10-19-2010, 02:55 PM
    Chute_Boxe44
    As of right now Lytle makes the most sense for Condit. Even with such an impressive KO I still feel he's a few spots away from the top five. I have felt Hardy is overrated for a long time and this fight has finally proved it, so beating him doesn't catapult you into top five spot in my eyes.

    As someone alluded to earlier, I felt the Ellenberger fight could have gone either way and that he was getting schooled by MacDonald up until the third. So because of this he is still one fight away from fighting a top five contender in my eyes.

    A win over a grisly veteran like Lytle would set him up for a top five fighter in the division. It could be a number of different people Fitch, Sheilds, Kampman rematch, Kos or even GSP depending on how the divisions play out over the next 4-5 months. Either way the welter weight division is really starting to heat up with alot of hungry up and comers. Who knows, maybe we'll see Hughs make another run haha.
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