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  • 12-23-2010, 10:27 PM
    ERIK Bruhn
    Fedor is the King of MMA........... his standup, grappling, agility, defense and submission skills are on another level of combat...
  • 12-21-2010, 10:27 PM
    ERIK Bruhn
    Fedor Emelianenko is STILL greatest P4P fighter to ever walk the earth.
  • 11-27-2010, 04:09 PM
    Tyrone Horiuchi

    I vote for Cain

    I guess I will go for Cain. He has beaten up Brock Lesnar who is a tough fighter to beat, Most of Lesnars loss came from his small mistakes especially on just playing offensively and not doing any defense like guarding, in short overconfident. So i go for Cain...
  • 11-26-2010, 06:45 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by kickbox View Post
    I did, and you are using hyperbole on me, his cardio isnt as bad as you make it out to be lol. And for the record, Overeem is agile and thus his takedown defense would work against Cain who is also agile. Cain took down Lesnar becuase Lesnar isnt exactly the most agile fighter in the UFC roster.
    Cain has takendown everyone he has chosen to takedown. So Overeem would be no different. Overeem does not have any kind of wrestling background or shown any history in the past that he has any kind of takedown defense, nonetheless the level of wrestling it would take to stop Cain.

    Here is how the fight goes: Bell rings, they circle, Overeem tries to rush in, Cain takes him down and Cain beats him until the ref pulls him off. Estimated time of fight... 3 mins.
  • 11-26-2010, 05:12 AM
    kickbox
    Quote Originally Posted by CHAEL fan View Post
    Cain would demolish Uber.
    Demolish is a little rough don't you think?
  • 11-26-2010, 01:40 AM
    CHAEL fan
    Quote Originally Posted by kickbox View Post
    I did, and you are using hyperbole on me, his cardio isnt as bad as you make it out to be lol. And for the record, Overeem is agile and thus his takedown defense would work against Cain who is also agile. Cain took down Lesnar becuase Lesnar isnt exactly the most agile fighter in the UFC roster.
    Cain would demolish Uber.
  • 11-26-2010, 12:12 AM
    kickbox
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    LOL at Overeem having great cardio... dude have you ever actually seen Overeem fight? You are assuming a lot based on 3 mins in K1 kickboxing matches. Overeem has well known cardio problems throughout his career. He comes out like a spit fire for about 3-5 mins and then dies.

    Also, this is MMA not K1 kickboxing. Its a lot easier to be a great striker when you are not worried about a guy picking you up and slamming you down. Cain would take Overeem down and beat him until the ref pulled him off. If Cain can take Lesnar down there is no doubt he can take Overeem down.
    I did, and you are using hyperbole on me, his cardio isnt as bad as you make it out to be lol. And for the record, Overeem is agile and thus his takedown defense would work against Cain who is also agile. Cain took down Lesnar becuase Lesnar isnt exactly the most agile fighter in the UFC roster.
  • 11-25-2010, 05:19 AM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by kickbox View Post
    Its about skill, AO is indeed a superior striker and has a ground game. cardio wise he is great, he was in k1 for godsake. So he can compete and defeat the best the ufc has to offer...........the best the ufc has to offer lmao. Cain isn the face of the ufc at this point.
    LOL at Overeem having great cardio... dude have you ever actually seen Overeem fight? You are assuming a lot based on 3 mins in K1 kickboxing matches. Overeem has well known cardio problems throughout his career. He comes out like a spit fire for about 3-5 mins and then dies.

    Also, this is MMA not K1 kickboxing. Its a lot easier to be a great striker when you are not worried about a guy picking you up and slamming you down. Cain would take Overeem down and beat him until the ref pulled him off. If Cain can take Lesnar down there is no doubt he can take Overeem down.
  • 11-24-2010, 09:47 PM
    kickbox
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    Personally I think Overeem is the new Barnett, a competely overrated fighter who is on a nice win streak but beaten no one of name value.

    Overeem has a history of having a horrible gas tank and not being able to hold up any kind of pace after 5 mins. How do we think that would fair with the cardio monster that is Cain? If Overeem could not finish of Cain in the first 3 minutes he would be in a whole lot of trouble. And who says he would even get the chance to finish off Cain? The way Cain buzzsaws through people there is a good chance Overeem would be done in the first three minutes and never have a chance to get any offense off.

    I think the same with JDS. Overeem would have his moments in the first 3 mins and then tire out and just be a sitting duck for JDS.

    To be totally honest I think a lot of guys would beat Overeem pretty badly. Fedor, Werdum, Lesnar, Mir... pretty much anyone that can either get him to the ground or just handle the assault for three minutes.
    Its about skill, AO is indeed a superior striker and has a ground game. cardio wise he is great, he was in k1 for godsake. So he can compete and defeat the best the ufc has to offer...........the best the ufc has to offer lmao. Cain isn the face of the ufc at this point.
  • 11-24-2010, 09:40 PM
    Masscore
    Personally I think Overeem is the new Barnett, a competely overrated fighter who is on a nice win streak but beaten no one of name value.

    Overeem has a history of having a horrible gas tank and not being able to hold up any kind of pace after 5 mins. How do we think that would fair with the cardio monster that is Cain? If Overeem could not finish of Cain in the first 3 minutes he would be in a whole lot of trouble. And who says he would even get the chance to finish off Cain? The way Cain buzzsaws through people there is a good chance Overeem would be done in the first three minutes and never have a chance to get any offense off.

    I think the same with JDS. Overeem would have his moments in the first 3 mins and then tire out and just be a sitting duck for JDS.

    To be totally honest I think a lot of guys would beat Overeem pretty badly. Fedor, Werdum, Lesnar, Mir... pretty much anyone that can either get him to the ground or just handle the assault for three minutes.
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