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  • 10-29-2010, 09:31 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    When people talk about Jackson's safety first fighters, they talk about GSP and Rashad. However, when you look at the way Jon Jones, Donald Cerrone, Shane Carwin, Leonard Garcia and Carlos Condit fight, I don't know you can generalize so easily.
    People are always quick to group a few bad seeds together. Jackson's camp has a wide array of talent. Jackson is renowned for his strategy and ability to dissect fighters' weaknesses more so than his training. But if you're going to hate something, hate the best I suppose.

    Someone has been playing too much Dungeons and Dragons I suppose.
  • 10-29-2010, 03:21 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by ARSchwartz View Post
    I think he'll regain it regardless, but he'll regain it a lot faster if he takes a trip down to New Mexico. He went after Cain thinking he could take any kind of beating because of the confidence the Carwin fight gave him, well now he knows otherwise. He's not an idiot, he will bounce back from this loss just like he did against the Mir loss. Getting some stand up and strategy tips from the guys who work with GSP as opposed to only the people he brings in will speed him along quickly.

    Imaging Lesnar with the crisp striking blended with his wrestling prowess. Mix that with his natural size, strength, and speed, and who would stop him?
    If anything Lesnar probably thought the ref would give him more of a chance to recover. Lesnar was never out of the fight let alone anywhere close to being knocked out.

    Turtling up when youre on your back and not improving your position is something he needs to stop doing. Hopefully he took something from his fight with Cain because not all fighters will blow their wad and gas themselves out like Carwin.

    Someone said it best when they said Cain learned from Carwins mistake and refined his approach against Lesnar.
  • 10-29-2010, 02:45 AM
    Dr. MMA
    When people talk about Jackson's safety first fighters, they talk about GSP and Rashad. However, when you look at the way Jon Jones, Donald Cerrone, Shane Carwin, Leonard Garcia and Carlos Condit fight, I don't know you can generalize so easily.

    We also got to remember that GSP trains almost 90% outside of Greg Jackson's. His head trainer is Zahabi. Greg Jackson is involved in the gameplans but he doesn't do all of it. People choose to have different cornermen in their fights than their head trainer sometimes.
  • 10-29-2010, 02:23 AM
    FFFRpickup
    you can never count Brock out...he's a beast. he just needs to improve in certains areas.
  • 10-29-2010, 02:19 AM
    DarkMage
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    While Jackson does breed safety-first fighters, Fitch trains at AKA.

    rh
    Ah, ok. Considering the way Fitch fights, it was an easy mistake to make.
  • 10-29-2010, 02:15 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMage View Post
    Oh lord, not Greg Jackson's camp; any camp but that one. I don't want to see Lesnar turn into a play-it-safe, decision-first, fighter. We don't need another Jon Fitch; who's about as exciting to watch fight as it is to watching paint dry.
    While Jackson does breed safety-first fighters, Fitch trains at AKA.

    rh
  • 10-29-2010, 01:49 AM
    unkoil
    Its possible depending on the amount of matches he has before a title shot. One referring to the 1 match he had with Herring or 2-3 which would be a proper amount.

    possible matchups that I see before fighting someone in the top 4.

    Ben Rothwell
    Big Nog
    Cheick Kongo
    Sean McCorkle
  • 10-29-2010, 01:29 AM
    DarkMage
    Quote Originally Posted by sikk View Post
    That sounds pretty likely. I'd like to see Lesnar get some training from a better camp though, I think if he were under like Greg Jackson or Matt Hume he could step his game up alot.
    Oh lord, not Greg Jackson's camp; any camp but that one. I don't want to see Lesnar turn into a play-it-safe, decision-first, fighter. We don't need another Jon Fitch; who's about as exciting to watch fight as it is to watching paint dry.
  • 10-28-2010, 09:39 PM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by NLRepublic View Post
    As bad as Tito reacted to getting tapped up when he was champ, you can't compare how Brock's game actually fall's apart to what Tito did.

    2 points first off, the first being the obvious that Tito did not hate getting hit the way Brock does. Watch Chuck/Tito fight 2, Chuck was beating the shit out of him and at the end of the round Tito was throwin refs out of the way and screaming in Chuck's face . Brock wasn't acting like that after Carwin beat his ass for 5 mins. Tito never liked getting hit when he was the champ, but Brock is on another level. The second point is that Tito did that at LHW, Brock can't take punishment like that by turtleing up on the ground and letting a bunch of HWs beat him down. He will continue to get TKO'd.

    The other issue with me is the myth that Lesnar has the elite level wrestling he had in college and that he can just throw people around. He beat up a can, then came to the UFC and out wrestled Frank Mir and Heath Hearing. Pretty much anyone with any sort of wrestling background can do that in the HW division. Then he arguably gets outwrestled by Couture who was like 60 lbs. lighter than him on fight night. He couldn't get Carwin down until he punched himself out, and he got Cain down once and Cain bounced right back up.

    As long as he trains with a bunch of Mini Brocks at a gym with Slayer spelled out in duct tape on the wall he's gonna be more of the same. If he decides to realize he's still in his young 30's and make 3 month trips to a training camp outside of Minnesota for his fights things could change
    - Tito aboslutely hates getting punched in the face and ofcourse Brock is on another level given he hasn't even had 8 professional fights yet.

    - Cain was taken down twice and Carwin was almost taken down before he got gassed which was entirely his fault for showing up out of shape.

    - Brock needs to work on his striking defense and somehow integrate it with his wrestling. GSP is a perfect example.
  • 10-28-2010, 08:53 PM
    MetalHead75
    I say he most definitely can as long as his head's in the right place coming off this loss. If he takes this loss like a man and learns from it to become a better fighter, with the proper training he will be a fucking beast down the road.

    But on the other hand, his ego is so fucking huge that I'm not sure if he can handle NOT being the champion and getting that huge payday. He may just tuck his tail between his legs and make his way back to the WWE before me makes it to another title run. At least there, he'll make more money and the ass kickings are fake...
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