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  • 02-05-2011, 09:10 PM
    Xanatos
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I don't think he ever thought it was a good idea. I might be reading between the lines too much, but I think he was indicating that a bum knee prevented him from training appropriately. So he came in even fatter than usual and with less mobility.



    Even more importantly, the HW talent pool is spread so thinly that it's easy to make a name for yourself. If Tim shows up at 260 for three fights over the next year, he's got a chance to make one big run before it's too late. I'm guessing he's 34-5, so the clock is ticking...but if he shows up lean and focused, he's a proven threat.

    rh

    Ya, he just almost made it sound like it was a revelation to him that he fought better at 265. That actually training hard for his fights produces better results. Timmy could very well rule the roost in Bellator, it would be cool to see him in their tournament if they do heavyweight anytime soon, cause fighting often, keeping him in the gym would benefit him.
  • 02-05-2011, 06:51 PM
    b0sH
    I don't think Tim's got what it takes to put another run together.

    He benefited from a hugely thin UFC HW division and ran through people, most of whom had no business against supposed top tier talent. McGee, Sims, Telligman, Silva etc

    Since then I just don't think he's come to terms with not being top of the pile anymore. He loved being the big fish in the small pond and isn't willing to put the work in or has the ability to make it to that top tier anymore. Couture, Big Nog, Fedor all proved that, some of them emphatically.

    Now we see a Sylvia who isn't even putting the work in anymore, which at least previously made up for some of his lack of ability.
  • 02-05-2011, 04:53 PM
    IceCold48
    Quote Originally Posted by joeyP View Post
    I honestly think that if he gets back to 265, he has a shot at legitimately resurrecting his career
    he just lost to fucking abe wagner a guy who went one and out on TUF.
  • 02-05-2011, 04:26 PM
    Ramma
    Quote Originally Posted by Lefthookstcrook View Post
    I didnt see the fight myself, Does anyone have a pic of the weigh ins? I know Tims a big guy, but having that much extra weight on must of hindered his performance.

    DAMN DOUBLE POST.SORRY MODS



    Tim, and maybe the knee did or didn't effect his training (because there is always an excuse with Tim outside of the Fedor loss), should have learned from the Mercer debacle that coming in anywhere over 280 was a bad decision. As soon as I saw him, I thought, "We are going to see an upset".

    It's a shame that when Tim fought Nogueira, we were seeing the best Sylvia in a long time up until the submission. He lost to Fedor in a lopsided fashion (no shame there), and then he just tanked.
  • 02-04-2011, 06:57 PM
    pantomime horse
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. MMA View Post
    He was the same weight against Ray Mercer. I don't think it was the knee, I think he thought he was going to run through Abe.
    Of course he did. He could have cut weight through his diet as well, but he didn't. Sylvia just isn't doing what he needs to to get back to the bigger promotions. That's fine, but he shouldn't do one thing and say another and expect fans like me to buy into it.

    I also think more fighters have figured out the way to beat him. Give him time and space and you'll have problems. Do the opposite and you're on the way to victory.
  • 02-04-2011, 05:26 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    We need a Dana "Do you want to be a fucking fighter speech stat!"
  • 02-04-2011, 05:22 PM
    Dr. MMA
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I don't think he ever thought it was a good idea. I might be reading between the lines too much, but I think he was indicating that a bum knee prevented him from training appropriately. So he came in even fatter than usual and with less mobility.
    He was the same weight against Ray Mercer. I don't think it was the knee, I think he thought he was going to run through Abe.
  • 02-04-2011, 05:13 PM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by Xanatos View Post
    at what point did Sylvia think that Super Heavyweight was a good idea.
    I don't think he ever thought it was a good idea. I might be reading between the lines too much, but I think he was indicating that a bum knee prevented him from training appropriately. So he came in even fatter than usual and with less mobility.

    Fortunately for him there's still a bunch of promotions willing to use his name to main event their local shows. And if he gets his shit together and string another 4 or 5 wins together then maybe he'll fight in a big promotion again. He should honestly think of Bellator.
    Even more importantly, the HW talent pool is spread so thinly that it's easy to make a name for yourself. If Tim shows up at 260 for three fights over the next year, he's got a chance to make one big run before it's too late. I'm guessing he's 34-5, so the clock is ticking...but if he shows up lean and focused, he's a proven threat.

    rh
  • 02-04-2011, 03:54 PM
    lwbrewer
    Can Timmey make a come back at 265# Yes will he NO I don't think he's mentally strong enough to force himself to do all of the nessacary stuff to be a winner for very long. The sport has involved past the point he is willing to work for 6' 8" does cover everything.
  • 02-04-2011, 03:27 PM
    pantomime horse
    Why are people making excuses for Sylvia? He was fat, he didn't prepare properly, and this also adds up to disrespect for his opponent and the fans who bothered to watch.

    Anyone talking about a comeback for him are dreaming. Sylvia's on the same path as Riddick Bowe. The path to obesity, not to championships.
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