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  • 02-21-2011, 04:01 PM
    singinkangaroooo
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    If they fight within a year, Anderson has the ability to pick him apart with more fluid striking, experience and the ability to execute a game plan.

    If Jones is given time to mature, he's an enormous threat to Anderson at LHW. He's bigger, he's more explosive, he's unorthodox and--something Anderson hasn't seen in his entire career--he's got a significant size advantage over Silva.
    i completly agree on this..
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead
    I'm not happy Jones is facing Shogun--not only because I really like both fighters and don't want to see either lose--but because I think it's too early in Jon's career for such a huge step up in competition. Even if he beats Shogun--and anything can happen in MMA--I don't see him holding the belt for more than a defense or two simply because he's not a seasoned fighter at this point, and I'd like to see him with another year of experience before he's fighting at the championship level.

    rh
    this i can kind of relate to GSP back in the day.. Matt Hughes was the big dog and GSP was the insanely athletic challenger that everyone saw had the potential to beat him and dominate the weight class.. but Hughes had much more experience and it showed in the first fight.. flashforward 2 years of experience and GSP murders Hughes with 0 possibility of Hughes winning the fight aside from freak injury.. is this what we have to look forward to with Bones? (if he keeps a good work ethic ya i say)
  • 02-18-2011, 09:31 PM
    LefthookStcrook
    Man wins over Hammil/Vera and Bader sure get you alot of hype. (I know the Hammil fight wasn't a "win", but he ran through him and showed whose better)

    The guy hasn't fought a single top5 in his entire career and people are picking him over the #1LHW? and the #1MW? (Whose easily top 5 LHW, and also #1 P4p)?

    Blows my mind really. If someone beat Lytle, Condit and Hardy would people pick that fighter over GSp and Anderson? No. But yet Jones beats border line top10 fighters and he's gonna beat Shogun and or Anderson??

    I'd beileve it if he ran through some of these guys-Machida/Rampage/Thiago/Evans, but he hasnt, he ran through Hammil/Vera and Bader...Am I the only one that sees the difference in comp there?

    Give me a break people.
  • 02-18-2011, 09:15 PM
    Y2JUBAE
    Anderson.

    It wasn't that long ago that Jones himself said he wasn't ready for Anderson.
  • 02-13-2011, 08:03 PM
    goodtimes
    I think Jones is a bad match up for Silva; as long as he's smart and doesn't leave himself open to counters and goes for takedowns from the clinch, I think he pretty much has it. Unless of course Silva pulls off a crazy sub, but he's normally not spectacular off his back.
  • 02-10-2011, 11:01 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    damn that would be a sick fight, how scary is jones considering he would have a chance at Anderson this early in his career. jone's standup is very overrated, he can do some unorthodox things buts but would get picked apart by anderson, no way he could stand with him. but he would be able to get silva down almost at will(when he gets into his takedown range, given his speed and huge reach) but how would he do against anderson on the ground, we have seen that jones is very dominate on top, he can do damage just about as good as everybody.

    this fight would be better addressed after the shogun fight, it is very similar, we need to see how he would do against an elite striker in shogun and how he would do against somebody good on the ground, shogun. he hasnt faced many if any of either, but its time he faced the elite. if he gets ko'ed by shogun than anderson could probably do it too, and if shogun can submit him or at least do some reverses or get back to his feet then it will show what his top game would be like against a better grappler. He will be able to take either of them down.
  • 02-09-2011, 01:06 AM
    LethalStriker
    I think that Silva matches up better with Shogun then he does against Jones.
  • 02-09-2011, 01:02 AM
    JacktheRipper
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    He's cherrypicking right now. It's the best decision he could have made after blowing up to 250...but blowing up to 250 isn't the best decision for a LHW, ever.
    How is he cherrypicking fights by not accepting one fight with only 6 weeks to train for it when he's already signed to fight someone else in may, and when did I say gaining weight was the best decision for a LHW ever?


    Quote Originally Posted by RH
    I'm going to hate on him for only fighting twice a year despite that. He chose to coach on TUF, he accepted the paycheck and the responsibility and the bout agreement that came with it. You can dismiss it as petty--that's your perspective--but signing an agreement and then reneging is the same as not keeping your word.
    I never said it wasn't the same as keeping your word. Perhaps I'm more loose on my morals, but I commend Rampage for telling Dana and Rashad to go fuck themselves so he could go get a paycheck and get an "acting" career going. He's wanted to do that for years, so good for him. But you hating on the guy for only fighting twice a year is petty. If you hate on Rampage that much I cant imagine how much you must hate on Wanderlei. You must want to slit that guy's throat for how little he fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by RH
    If lesnar did some bullshit like that--or went on to do another WWE gig, people would have crucified him.
    If by people you mean haters, then yea sure. But Zuffa? I highly doubt it. Lesnar is a much bigger draw than Rampage could ever hope to be.

    Quote Originally Posted by RH
    I don't know, maybe when he complained that Evans wasn't a good enough fight for him and that Machida should have been the one to coach TUF instead of Rashad.
    That's all news to me. I'd like to see the interview or article about that. I don't doubt he said that kind of stuff to Rashad, but I never read about him complaining how Rashad wasn't as good a fight for him as Machida.


    Quote Originally Posted by RH
    He's also said something to the effect that he wants to be his own brand like DLH and that he feels the UFC should just put big names in the cage with him.
    I see nothing wrong with him wanting a name like DLH, but I never heard about him saying the UFC should only match him up with big names. I'd be interested in reading that article/interview also. Apparently he didn't get his way becasue he's fighting Thiago.

    Quote Originally Posted by RH
    I understand that it's my opinion that I've interpreted that to mean he'd complain if he got thrown to a B level guy like Bader where the risk outweighed the reward, but I don't see it as being unlikely.
    Did he complain about being put against Jardine or something? That's the only B level fighter I can think of that he's fought recently unless you consider Rashad and Forrest B level.


    Quote Originally Posted by RH
    Dismissing me as being petty makes as much sense as if I resorted to calling you a nuthugger...you're welcome to your opinion, even if I disagree with it.
    LOL you are being petty. He's not the highest paid LHW either.

    Quote Originally Posted by RH
    You're also missing my point...he's the highest paid LHW since Chuck was retired, and he only wants to fight twice a year at best. I don't see that as professional, and I don't see his accomplishments as warranting it.

    rh
    Dude, he's not the highest paid LHW. There are 3 that come to mind who are paid slightly more than him.
  • 02-08-2011, 11:58 PM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by JacktheRipper View Post
    When has Rampage ever "cherrypicked" his fights? He has always fought who he was told to fight except for this particular case which was absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt the best decision he could have made.
    He's cherrypicking right now. It's the best decision he could have made after blowing up to 250...but blowing up to 250 isn't the best decision for a LHW, ever.

    And you're going to hate on him for inactivity due to being sidelined to coach TUF at Dana's behest and for accepting an opportunity to make a lot of money by being in a world reknowned major motion picture? Seems like you're just being petty to me.
    I'm going to hate on him for only fighting twice a year despite that. He chose to coach on TUF, he accepted the paycheck and the responsibility and the bout agreement that came with it. You can dismiss it as petty--that's your perspective--but signing an agreement and then reneging is the same as not keeping your word. If lesnar did some bullshit like that--or went on to do another WWE gig, people would have crucified him.

    When has he even remotely done something like this?
    I don't know, maybe when he complained that Evans wasn't a good enough fight for him and that Machida should have been the one to coach TUF instead of Rashad. He's also said something to the effect that he wants to be his own brand like DLH and that he feels the UFC should just put big names in the cage with him. I understand that it's my opinion that I've interpreted that to mean he'd complain if he got thrown to a B level guy like Bader where the risk outweighed the reward, but I don't see it as being unlikely.

    So the guy wanted to enjoy the holidays with his family and take his kids back to japan to see their other family members, and he gained some weight in the process. Big deal. The guy deserves a life outside of fighting, and it's not like the UFC is paying Rampage on a weekly or monthly basis. Rampage has produced at the level the UFC paid him for each of his fights except for the Rashad fight imo. Again, you're just being petty.
    Dismissing me as being petty makes as much sense as if I resorted to calling you a nuthugger...you're welcome to your opinion, even if I disagree with it.

    You're also missing my point...he's the highest paid LHW since Chuck was retired, and he only wants to fight twice a year at best. I don't see that as professional, and I don't see his accomplishments as warranting it.

    rh
  • 02-08-2011, 08:02 PM
    JacktheRipper
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    I'm not saying it wouldn't be stupid for him to fight Shogun [in general] or to take a fight six weeks out when he's closer to SHW than LHW.

    I have an issue with him only fighting 6 times in the 4 years since he KO'd Chuck, and being--I think he is, anyway--the highest paid LHW while he's cherrypicking fights.
    When has Rampage ever "cherrypicked" his fights? He has always fought who he was told to fight except for this particular case which was absolutely beyond a shadow of a doubt the best decision he could have made.

    And you're going to hate on him for inactivity due to being sidelined to coach TUF at Dana's behest and for accepting an opportunity to make a lot of money by being in a world reknowned major motion picture? Seems like you're just being petty to me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivethead
    He'll be the first one to complain if he's taken out of contention due to inactivity and given a hungry B level opponent
    When has he even remotely done something like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rivethead
    but he's not doing anything to keep himself in shape if something comes up and the UFC needs to rely on him to produce at the level at which they're paying him.
    So the guy wanted to enjoy the holidays with his family and take his kids back to japan to see their other family members, and he gained some weight in the process. Big deal. The guy deserves a life outside of fighting, and it's not like the UFC is paying Rampage on a weekly or monthly basis. Rampage has produced at the level the UFC paid him for each of his fights except for the Rashad fight imo. Again, you're just being petty.
  • 02-08-2011, 04:46 PM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by JacktheRipper View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with turning down a title fight when you're already 45 pounds over weight with only 6 weeks to prepare, and the fight is against a guy you already have a haunting loss against. Not to mention Rampage took the first fight injured. I think it was very smart of Rampage to not accept the fight so he can get ready for Thiago. If he runs through Thiago I could see him campaigning for a title shot.
    I'm not saying it wouldn't be stupid for him to fight Shogun [in general] or to take a fight six weeks out when he's closer to SHW than LHW.

    I have an issue with him only fighting 6 times in the 4 years since he KO'd Chuck, and being--I think he is, anyway--the highest paid LHW while he's cherrypicking fights.

    He'll be the first one to complain if he's taken out of contention due to inactivity and given a hungry B level opponent, but he's not doing anything to keep himself in shape if something comes up and the UFC needs to rely on him to produce at the level at which they're paying him.

    rh
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