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  • 04-04-2011, 04:56 AM
    GSPvsSILVA2012
    What do ppl think is the biggest fight for Cain? Overeem or Jon Jones?
  • 04-01-2011, 10:56 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Im a huge cain fan. Am i the only one that is very concerned about his injury, tearing his rotator cuff is a very big deal pertaining a lot to grappling but even more for striking. He tore his left, and we all know how hard he trows his left hooks, could he easily injure it again?
  • 04-01-2011, 05:27 PM
    dbader08
    Cain by granite chin, better wrestling, being bigger, and pushing a pace that Jones couldn't handle.
  • 03-28-2011, 02:36 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    agree, cain is not a big hw by any means, but his wrestling and takedowns are way better than anyone jones has faced. If he caught jones on the chin, untested or not, jones would get ktfo.
  • 03-27-2011, 10:13 AM
    GSPvsSILVA2012
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    How does he match up well with Cain? Cain is bigger and better at everything. Jones looks huge standing next to Shogun, but would look small next to Cain who would outweigh him somewhere between 20-30 pounds.

    Cain would manhandle Jones and it would not be pretty. If he could toss around guys the size of Rothwell and Lesnar imagine what he can do with a guy as small as Jones.
    Ryan Bader looked bigger than Cain in several pictures together. Jon Jones is a huge LHW that cuts alot of weight and he's said that he can get to about 240 and JJ dwarfed Ryan Bader in that last fight. So obviously size isn't that big of a deal considering 240 is about Cains weight and Cain isn't anywhere close to being solid at that weight.. So he matches up well in that aspect with Cain. With Allistair it's differen't. I don't see him suplexing fucking horse meat 260+ pound Overeem on his back and he sure as hell isn't going to outstrike the k1 champ standing up so yeah stylistically it would be a major difference in JJ fighting Cain or Overeem.
  • 03-26-2011, 01:32 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    yes but bader, hammil, vlad, etc had better wrestling then jones and he took them down with ease. fitch, koscheck and hughes had better wrestling than gsp and he took them down with ease. Mma wrestling and takedows are different and not sure cain, would be the fight that you would say "hes too big and strong for jones" compared to the other hw's. and shogun fought guys like overeem and diabate that had long reaches, but jones is a very different fighter, uses his reach differently and goes for takedowns. Cain fighting brock and kongo with long reaches wouldnt help out much. I do agree that cain would win, but not as easily as I would have thought before.


    Overeem is a beast now, and would be able to deal with jone's reach and is harder to take down now, but he still doesnt have top notch wrestling or tdd. That would be a great fight and overeem would be more likely to make jones stand with him than other fighters because he can land his shots by barley getting into jones' range and look at what he can do with his hands, kicks, and knees. jones could get KTFO
    It's not only that Cain is a better wrestler then Jones, it's also that he is a lot bigger. If they were the exact same size I would say this would be a hell of a fight and it would go down to the wire. But they are not the same size and Cain is a lot bigger.

    Plus we have seen what happens when Cain gets takendown, he gets right back up. Lesnar took him down twice and Cain spent a total of 10 seconds on the mat and took no damage. We do not know what will happen when Jones gets takendown. Will he pop right back up or will he be a fish out of water? Cain would be the last guy Jones wants to find this out about against. Because when Cain takes people down he pummels them into submission in very violent ways.
  • 03-26-2011, 08:51 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    cains wrestling is very good and jones would have to worry about getting taken down more than any of his past fights, cain is stronger. Not sure how cain would deal with jones takedowns, but cain's striking is far ahead of jones. I wish this fight was happening now.
  • 03-26-2011, 08:45 AM
    initial_zen
    cain would pulverize him imo.
  • 03-26-2011, 08:03 AM
    Punk Ass
    Cain is just to big and too strong. Simple as that. If Jones chose to go on the Overeen weight gain program, than he would most definitely be a problem for any HW but he would be an extremely small HW bulk wise.

    This is not even a fair dream match IMO.
  • 03-26-2011, 12:50 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    This fight wouldn't be that good. Cain is bigger, stronger, faster, hits hard and is a better wrestler then Jones. Yes Jones might have a reach advantage but Cain has already fought two guys with big reaches (Kongo and Lesnar).

    Jones is great and he has been impressive in dominating lots of LHW fights. But Cain is not a LHW, he is a big badass HW. And not just anyone badass HW, he is the best in the world. Cain would win this fight in less then 3 mins.

    yes but bader, hammil, vlad, etc had better wrestling then jones and he took them down with ease. fitch, koscheck and hughes had better wrestling than gsp and he took them down with ease. Mma wrestling and takedows are different and not sure cain, would be the fight that you would say "hes too big and strong for jones" compared to the other hw's. and shogun fought guys like overeem and diabate that had long reaches, but jones is a very different fighter, uses his reach differently and goes for takedowns. Cain fighting brock and kongo with long reaches wouldnt help out much. I do agree that cain would win, but not as easily as I would have thought before.


    Overeem is a beast now, and would be able to deal with jone's reach and is harder to take down now, but he still doesnt have top notch wrestling or tdd. That would be a great fight and overeem would be more likely to make jones stand with him than other fighters because he can land his shots by barley getting into jones' range and look at what he can do with his hands, kicks, and knees. jones could get KTFO
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