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  • 08-23-2011, 06:51 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Lesnar and Cain are clearly more credentialed but you are selling Jones short. He didnt go to college because of his grades and already decided what he was going to do. He went to junior college for 2 years and won the championship both years. He was a phenom in the NY wrestling scene. imo I could have easily seen him winning a national championship had he gone to college. He is just that good and talented.
  • 08-22-2011, 04:45 PM
    aussiemma
    i simply disagree, guess we should leave it at that
  • 08-22-2011, 04:04 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemma View Post
    can't even be bothered. why cant i compare jones to cain ??? we compare gsp and anderson, bj and gsp, anderson and jones. if jones moved to heavyweight and weighed in say 235 or 240, which he easily could ! then your saying brock would come in at around 320 right ?? you can't see how good jones is can you ?
    I am not saying you can't compare them overall. But to think just because Cain mauled Brock means Jones can maul Brock is stupid.

    I see how good Jones is but that is against LHW and guys who walk around at 220 max. We are talking about Brock freakin Lesnar here, the guy walks around at 280 easy if not heavier. At this point in their careers Jones would be mauled by Brock. Who knows if Jones puts on some weight and moves to HW what would happen. But if the fight happened tomorrow there is little doubt to the outcome. Lesnar's hand being raised and Jones going to the hospital.
  • 08-22-2011, 01:45 PM
    aussiemma
    Quote Originally Posted by MMATT View Post
    I'm a fan of Hamills but he hasn't been taking people down at all, he gave up his wresting and decided he was gonna slug it out with everyone, and that pisses me off!
    I don't think his wrestling style translates into MMA very well, he's just to slow to get in deep enough for a take down. Baders a good wrestler too but it seems like in mma its more important to be fast then strong, I don't think bones has dealt with a wrestler with the quickness, power or wrestling credentials of brock. I don't care who wins, these are my 2 most hated fighters and I just hope it ends in a brawl after the fight and they both get lifetime bans

    I voted Brock
    yeah i hope they get lifetime bans too, i hate watching lesnar and jones fight. they arent entertaining at all and have no skills.
  • 08-22-2011, 06:45 AM
    dbader08
    Brock via flying knee...
  • 08-21-2011, 08:21 PM
    MMAtt
    Quote Originally Posted by aussiemma View Post
    so your saying jones' stand up wouldn't do anything to affect brock ? jones is much faster than carwin and more technical. we've seen that brock absolutely hates to get punched in the face, anytime he has copped a shot to the face with decent power cain, carwin fights for example. although jones fights at 205, he fought great wrestlers like hamill and bader who are renowned for taking guys down and jones basically stuffed their takedowns with EASE and threw them around like rag dolls. i know about the weight and power deifference, but surley that has to count for something ?

    I'm a fan of Hamills but he hasn't been taking people down at all, he gave up his wresting and decided he was gonna slug it out with everyone, and that pisses me off!
    I don't think his wrestling style translates into MMA very well, he's just to slow to get in deep enough for a take down. Baders a good wrestler too but it seems like in mma its more important to be fast then strong, I don't think bones has dealt with a wrestler with the quickness, power or wrestling credentials of brock. I don't care who wins, these are my 2 most hated fighters and I just hope it ends in a brawl after the fight and they both get lifetime bans

    I voted Brock
  • 08-21-2011, 05:14 PM
    aussiemma
    Quote Originally Posted by IceCold48 View Post
    jones wouldnt be able to handle brock's size and his striking isnt powerful enough to negate that like cain and carwin did. he also will have no way in hell at getting out from bottom the way cain did once jones goes down hell go out.
    so your saying jones' stand up wouldn't do anything to affect brock ? jones is much faster than carwin and more technical. we've seen that brock absolutely hates to get punched in the face, anytime he has copped a shot to the face with decent power cain, carwin fights for example. although jones fights at 205, he fought great wrestlers like hamill and bader who are renowned for taking guys down and jones basically stuffed their takedowns with EASE and threw them around like rag dolls. i know about the weight and power deifference, but surley that has to count for something ?
  • 08-21-2011, 07:54 AM
    IceCold48
    jones wouldnt be able to handle brock's size and his striking isnt powerful enough to negate that like cain and carwin did. he also will have no way in hell at getting out from bottom the way cain did once jones goes down hell go out.
  • 08-21-2011, 07:23 AM
    Pasha K
    Yeah and what if Jones begins to attack Lesnar?
    We all know what is Lesnar's strategy when someone begins to attack him.
  • 08-21-2011, 07:06 AM
    aussiemma
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    You are talking like Brock has no talent. Yes his striking is sub par but his takedowns and GnP are amazing. Also you forget that Brock is a better wrestler then Jones. Add in the fact he would be about 80 pounds heavier then Jones and it would be all she wrote. Brock via TKO in the first.

    Also do not compare Jones to Cain. Cain is better at EVERYTHING then Jones. Better wrestler, striker, cardio, speed and power. Just because Cain mauled Brock does not mean Jones would when Cain is a better fighter.
    can't even be bothered. why cant i compare jones to cain ??? we compare gsp and anderson, bj and gsp, anderson and jones. if jones moved to heavyweight and weighed in say 235 or 240, which he easily could ! then your saying brock would come in at around 320 right ?? you can't see how good jones is can you ?
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