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  • 01-30-2012, 07:28 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by Cat--Smasher View Post
    So I wonder?

    Did this thread end up in Noob Jack because of the shitty quality of the source, because it was total bullshit or because it has digressed to a discussion on Silva's "broken rib"?
    Combination of all three I believe.
  • 01-30-2012, 06:52 PM
    sproggy
    I came for the punch and pie.
  • 01-30-2012, 06:41 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    So I wonder?

    Did this thread end up in Noob Jack because of the shitty quality of the source, because it was total bullshit or because it has digressed to a discussion on Silva's "broken rib"?
  • 01-30-2012, 06:31 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by FCK View Post
    Yeah but if Anderson Silva really did have a broken rib going into that fight, you could easily imagine how that would have effected Silva's mobility on the ground/feet, flexibility to hip escape and simply painful to throw his legs up so high for a triangle.

    I think Anderson doesn't quite have the TDD Bisping has because he's so good at not letting an opponent get so close. Chael's style plays the numbers in that if he comes forward for the take down, at least some of those times he's gonna get throught AS strikes to get in a position to take him down.

    Chael also has a pretty good chin on him though, so he's got another advantage in trying to get the takedown in that he can weather the storm.

    I think AS standup ability would be just as good as Bispings if we see a 100% healthy Silva in rematch.
    For the one millionth and last fuckin time, Silva DID NOT HAVE A BROKEN RIB going into the fight. It got cracked in the first round. So when Sonnen rocked Silva in the first minute, Silva was friggin fine. If he did do you think he could have cut weight, fought or even got fuckin cleared by the CSAC? I just ask that people use some common friggin sense when it comes to this stuff.
  • 01-30-2012, 05:51 PM
    FCK
    Quote Originally Posted by disposableassassin View Post
    anderson doesnt have the TDD or ability to get back up that bisping has. IMO that is the one truly elite level skill that bisping has. this fight went how it did because styles make fights.
    Yeah but if Anderson Silva really did have a broken rib going into that fight, you could easily imagine how that would have effected Silva's mobility on the ground/feet, flexibility to hip escape and simply painful to throw his legs up so high for a triangle.

    I think Anderson doesn't quite have the TDD Bisping has because he's so good at not letting an opponent get so close. Chael's style plays the numbers in that if he comes forward for the take down, at least some of those times he's gonna get throught AS strikes to get in a position to take him down.

    Chael also has a pretty good chin on him though, so he's got another advantage in trying to get the takedown in that he can weather the storm.

    I think AS standup ability would be just as good as Bispings if we see a 100% healthy Silva in rematch.
  • 01-30-2012, 05:01 PM
    beau420
    Quote Originally Posted by grambino View Post
    Thank you, that's exactly right. Bisping didn't do anything. Listening to the fight reminded me of Crocodile Dundee. When he goes to the states and gets in the hotel room and the tv is on and it's playing the Lucille Ball show and he says "yep, see in". That's how I felt with the commentary. I hadn't listened to a fight in a few years and since I dvr'd this one and everyone was asleep I couldn't listen to music so I decided to listen and it reminded me of exactly why I don't listen. They're trying to convince me that Bisping is winning the fight and Chael needs to finish him in the 3rd to win! This actually had me concerned because you usually lose a decision to a TUF winner. Thank God the judges aren't listening to Rogan. I don't think Bisping is a scrub, but he's not one of the top guys either. He's at the top of the second tier.
    Here are the fight stats:

    FightMetric: Sonnen vs. Bisping Official UFC Statistics

    Total strikes were 135 to 102 for Sonnen. Bisping actually had more head strikes than Sonnen.

    What Rogan forgets to take into consideration sometimes, is power, and how strikes affect the fighter.

    Bisping was more affected by Sonnen's shots than Sonnen's strikes.

    What I was surprised to see, is that Sonnen outstruct Bisping in the first round. And that Bisping scored 10 more head strikes in the 3rd round than Sonnen did.

    Again...it was close. And I could see how a judge could score it two rounds to 1 for Bisping. But I am glad they were able to score it for the fighter with more significant strikes and more dominant.

    You guys are talking about the fight like it was a Sonnen blow out.

    I thought Sonnen has looked his worst fight since Maia....and apart from that, one of his worst showings since he entered the UFC.
  • 01-30-2012, 04:03 PM
    disposableassassin
    Quote Originally Posted by H0SS View Post
    The sad thing is that some people point at the Bisping fight as proof that Chael had an unfair advantage against Silva, not realizing that A)he was still on TRT against Bisping, and B)He will most likely be on TRT against Silva again.
    anderson doesnt have the TDD or ability to get back up that bisping has. IMO that is the one truly elite level skill that bisping has. this fight went how it did because styles make fights.
  • 01-30-2012, 03:39 PM
    grambino
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    Just two things.

    1. Bear hugging is not a highlight and thats all Bisping really did.

    2. If you watch the fight with out Joe Rogan screaming about how awesome Bisping was, you will see that Sonnen was actually getting the better in the stand-up. He clipped Bisping twice but you don't notice it because Goldberg and Rogan don't mention it. This is their second worse annoucing job they have ever done. Number 1 still being Munoz v. Okami.

    Thank you, that's exactly right. Bisping didn't do anything. Listening to the fight reminded me of Crocodile Dundee. When he goes to the states and gets in the hotel room and the tv is on and it's playing the Lucille Ball show and he says "yep, see in". That's how I felt with the commentary. I hadn't listened to a fight in a few years and since I dvr'd this one and everyone was asleep I couldn't listen to music so I decided to listen and it reminded me of exactly why I don't listen. They're trying to convince me that Bisping is winning the fight and Chael needs to finish him in the 3rd to win! This actually had me concerned because you usually lose a decision to a TUF winner. Thank God the judges aren't listening to Rogan. I don't think Bisping is a scrub, but he's not one of the top guys either. He's at the top of the second tier.
  • 01-30-2012, 03:22 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by Repenter View Post
    i haven't had a chance to watch the full fight yet... but i'm wondering just how selective the editing was on that, because it looks like chael beat bisping from piller to poste based on that video.
    Just two things.

    1. Bear hugging is not a highlight and thats all Bisping really did.

    2. If you watch the fight with out Joe Rogan screaming about how awesome Bisping was, you will see that Sonnen was actually getting the better in the stand-up. He clipped Bisping twice but you don't notice it because Goldberg and Rogan don't mention it. This is their second worse annoucing job they have ever done. Number 1 still being Munoz v. Okami.
  • 01-30-2012, 03:02 PM
    FCK
    That high light reel video posted is quite funny.

    From that video it looks like like a walk in the park for Chael. Not much of the first round is covered, and the second is completely covered from every angle favouring Sonnen. Considering nothing much can be taken from the third as it was uneventful then yeah it looks like Sonnen walked through Bisping not even taking a shot.

    We never saw the shots Bisping landed in the first round, or the quick standups, or Sonnen getting turned around in the clinch, or the reversal late in the 3rd Bisping got over Sonnen.

    Those all led to a great performance from both fighters I feel. The highlight reel was never going to be stunning.

    Considering how well Bisping did in basically neutralising Sonnen causing any real damage, or threatening a submission, I felt the ref's decision to standup the fight could have been implemented maybe twice in that fight.
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