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  • 08-07-2012, 04:31 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    I think Shogun beats Rashad. Losing to Jones doesn't mean you would have lost to rashad. I doubt Rashad would have landed a big flying knee in the first 5 seconds.
    No it doesnt.

    Having poor takedown defense usually has you losing to Rashad.

    If he got to fight Rashad when he won the title was a little overconfident in his standup then he could have ko'd him like Machida did. But now that Rashad has gone back to his wrestling... It would be a tough fight for Shogun.

    I wonder if we will ever see it happen.
  • 08-06-2012, 02:30 AM
    dbader08
    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    Had the Evans fight actually happened and not the Jones fight, he would have lost the belt anyways... of course a lot more boring... and he wouldnt have got beaten down as bad. He would have lost a UD.
    I think Shogun beats Rashad. Losing to Jones doesn't mean you would have lost to rashad. I doubt Rashad would have landed a big flying knee in the first 5 seconds.
  • 08-06-2012, 02:05 AM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Quote Originally Posted by fuzzrocks5285 View Post
    my only problem with this card is that dana didn't hand out several FOTN & KOTN bonuses. this card was absolutely fantastic from top to bottom.
    It was been documented numerous times that Dana and Zuffa pay numerous people much more money under the table.

    The latest person who talked about it was Ian McCall. George Roop spoke about it as well.
  • 08-06-2012, 01:25 AM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Machida would tool Hendo. Unfortunately for Dan, Machida won't brawl with him like Shogun did. Machida picks Hendo apart rather easily imo
    Picture the Anderson Silva fight, only Machida is better at keeping distance and much harder to take down... But yes if Dan landed some big shots, he could put lyoto away... not very likely though. Machida by TKO.

    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    Machida looked more impressive than Shogun but lets be honest, Bader is an easier match up for Machida than Vera is for Shogun, especially this Vera that actually fights up to his potential. Vera has those good straight attacks that can give someone like Shogun fits.

    I figured Vera would show up tentative as always against Shogun and Shogun would be able to find his chin early because of it, but Vera was game to fight from the start. Bader on the other hand, fought like complete shit. I think it's laughable that someone is being given a title shot based off of a fight against someone who fights like that. He hardly throws anything the whole fight, then when he does decide to throw, his decided attack is to run in wildly and try to land a looping right hand against the better counter striker in the division? lol well be amazed all you want Dana White and Joe Rogan but it doesn't exactly have me jumping for joy for a Jones-Machida rematch.
    How would Shogun have done against Bader? we still havent seen him against too many good wrestlers with a "wrestle first" mindset...

    Had the Evans fight actually happened and not the Jones fight, he would have lost the belt anyways... of course a lot more boring... and he wouldnt have got beaten down as bad. He would have lost a UD.
  • 08-05-2012, 10:13 PM
    joeodd2
    I think the Johnson/Swick fight could have shared FOTN as well. That first round was fucking Bannanaz! Johnson is one of my new favorite WW fighters to watch. I hope he bounces back with a few wins.
  • 08-05-2012, 06:07 PM
    dbader08
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    Machida gets wrecked by Jones or Hendo.
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

    Machida would tool Hendo. Unfortunately for Dan, Machida won't brawl with him like Shogun did. Machida picks Hendo apart rather easily imo

    But I'm glad this 1inthechamber guy is gone as quick as he showed up....what a douche.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fedorlei Gomipierre View Post
    You're right.

    IDK, for some reason tonight struck me as a losing night for Shogun despite pulling the win, must've blurred my perspective....

    That said, I honestly fear that Shogun's going to be a product of the "too many wars" syndrome and the wear feels like it's starting to really show. Considering that he hasn't strung together two straight wins in quite some time(factoring in the Machida decision loss), I'm not too sure if it is a good investment. Shogun's camp already turned down a proposed Glover fight, I don't know if they'd care to roll the dice against him....
    Him leaving Vera KTFO against the fence somehow left you with a blurred perspective?

    Yes he has not had two wins in a while but he obviously should have won the first Machida fight and the Hendo fight should have been a draw imo. Other than his loss to Jones, he's only had 1 definitive loss in the UFC which was his first fight to Forrest, who he destroyed in the rematch.

    Machida looked more impressive than Shogun but lets be honest, Bader is an easier match up for Machida than Vera is for Shogun, especially this Vera that actually fights up to his potential. Vera has those good straight attacks that can give someone like Shogun fits.

    I figured Vera would show up tentative as always against Shogun and Shogun would be able to find his chin early because of it, but Vera was game to fight from the start. Bader on the other hand, fought like complete shit. I think it's laughable that someone is being given a title shot based off of a fight against someone who fights like that. He hardly throws anything the whole fight, then when he does decide to throw, his decided attack is to run in wildly and try to land a looping right hand against the better counter striker in the division? lol well be amazed all you want Dana White and Joe Rogan but it doesn't exactly have me jumping for joy for a Jones-Machida rematch.
  • 08-05-2012, 05:11 PM
    fuzzrocks5285
    my only problem with this card is that dana didn't hand out several FOTN & KOTN bonuses. this card was absolutely fantastic from top to bottom.

    i knew going into the 2nd/3rd round machida was in the back licking his chops. worst case scenario they would have put him against vera/shogun & he would have clowned them (based on the cardio & some of the lack of defense) or he was getting a title shot.

    never really liked jamie varner but dude has won me over the last two fights
  • 08-05-2012, 04:28 PM
    SwordofAres
    Quote Originally Posted by johnny Boom View Post
    I got what he was getting too and your right it was retarded. The mods need to set up some sort filter to make sure trolls don't get in. But is pretty funny watching everyone ripe trolls apart
    We need us a troll hunting koala

  • 08-05-2012, 10:40 AM
    joeodd2
  • 08-05-2012, 09:04 AM
    Sniggles
    Quote Originally Posted by ichibabythecancrushe
    jj baby mama
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