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  • 08-17-2012, 11:17 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    A Cormier win over Mir, coupled with his last 3 wins(Barnett, Bigfoot and Monson) gives him the nudge ahead of Werdum's 5 wins in his last 6(beating Fedor, Bigfoot, Nelson, Kyle and Russow) when it comes to next dibs IMO.

    That said, I somewhat think that a JDS/Werdum II could be a major selling point given that JDS's UFC journey started by putting down Werdum and Werdum's path since the JDS loss has included one of the greatest wins in MMA history over Fedor and his visibly advanced striking and physical development.

    I also wonder if the UFC may want to give Cormier a warm up fight in the UFC, just in case they feel he doesn't have enough exposure to main event a UFC PPV card. However, they can sell the JDS fight as a clash against the SF HWGP champion who is undefeated and trying to avenge his AKA teammate's losses(that is, if Cain loses again)....

    Endgame, I think both make a stronger argument than Overeem, whose record is dubiously padded at best.
  • 08-17-2012, 11:17 PM
    optimusjoel
    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    In a perfect world JDS would fight Cain, then fight DC... should he get my Mir... Before AO comes back, then fight him...

    If AO is ready and DC has beaten Mir by the time the JDS/Cain rematch happens. The UFC will have the good problem of having 2 very solid contenders for the title... Much less at HW... That is a good sign... Also with Werdum looking good.... some good up and comers... The HW division is looking good...

    If Dan wins... He will have beaten Monson, Bigfoot, Barnett, and Mir in a row... that is impressive... He is more than deserving... But will he get the shot before AO, if Alistar is good to go. You also have think about how the UFC will see it. They know that AO has better selling potential...

    Why not get DC some more exposure against a HW like say Nog or Werdum... even on the same card as JDS/AO.




    RD... DC wants noting to do with Jones. I always get a laugh when I see people say that Jones wouldnt be able to deal with DC's size... The guy has a good bit of fat on him, if he was cut like Jones, he would barley have any weight on him...

    Jones would also have a 6 inches of height and 13.5 inches of reach on DC...
    Dc has beaten bigger guys then Jones. I don't see why he wouldn't want that fight, his striking is really good and his wrestling is insane.
  • 08-17-2012, 10:59 PM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by Masscore View Post
    How is it fair to Cormier who could perhaps beat 3 Top 10 HWs in a row? What else do you want the guy to do to earn a title shot? Who cares if he hasn't fought in the UFC his track record says that if he beats Mir he has earned his shot at JDS/Cain.
    Especially when you consider that if Cerrone somehow gets past Pettis, he may have gotten a title shot in a deeper, more competative division by beating only one contender who isn't top 5.

    Or that there are fans who think if Anderson could somehow make 170--which is an unintentionally hilarious IQ test in and of itself--that he should get an immediate title shot at Georges simply by making weight. Because he's Anderson Silva.



    I really, really want Cormier to KO Mir.

    rh
  • 08-14-2012, 04:08 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    Quote Originally Posted by SimpleJack View Post
    It seems odd to me that they wouldn't have made this for the SF title before now.

    What are they going to do? Bring in Monson or make him beat up Brett Rogers and call that a title fight? That freaking title is useless anyway, give it to the one guy who gave you a spark of excitement in the last year....I mean, shit Marquardt has a title on far less achievement than DC.
    They do not have a SF HW title because the HW division is closing up shop after these last 2 fights.
  • 08-14-2012, 01:20 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    In a perfect world JDS would fight Cain, then fight DC... should he get my Mir... Before AO comes back, then fight him...

    If AO is ready and DC has beaten Mir by the time the JDS/Cain rematch happens. The UFC will have the good problem of having 2 very solid contenders for the title... Much less at HW... That is a good sign... Also with Werdum looking good.... some good up and comers... The HW division is looking good...

    If Dan wins... He will have beaten Monson, Bigfoot, Barnett, and Mir in a row... that is impressive... He is more than deserving... But will he get the shot before AO, if Alistar is good to go. You also have think about how the UFC will see it. They know that AO has better selling potential...

    Why not get DC some more exposure against a HW like say Nog or Werdum... even on the same card as JDS/AO.


    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    How is DC eligible to fight Jon Jones when the shot has already been promised to both Henderson and Machida? Seems to me like they should make him fight Shogun (assuming he is not fighting Goose)

    Not a fan of instant title shots without beating a contender for the title 1st.
    RD... DC wants noting to do with Jones. I always get a laugh when I see people say that Jones wouldnt be able to deal with DC's size... The guy has a good bit of fat on him, if he was cut like Jones, he would barley have any weight on him...

    Jones would also have a 6 inches of height and 13.5 inches of reach on DC...
  • 08-14-2012, 12:46 PM
    SimpleJack
    It seems odd to me that they wouldn't have made this for the SF title before now.

    What are they going to do? Bring in Monson or make him beat up Brett Rogers and call that a title fight? That freaking title is useless anyway, give it to the one guy who gave you a spark of excitement in the last year....I mean, shit Marquardt has a title on far less achievement than DC.
  • 08-14-2012, 12:08 PM
    Masscore
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    If he beats Mir then give him Overeem in a No. 1 contender match.
    It would be fair. Cormier I think should have at least 1 win in UFC before getting a title shot.
    Overeem also has to "pay" for being a cheater so give him a non title fight first.
    How is it fair to Cormier who could perhaps beat 3 Top 10 HWs in a row? What else do you want the guy to do to earn a title shot? Who cares if he hasn't fought in the UFC his track record says that if he beats Mir he has earned his shot at JDS/Cain.
  • 08-14-2012, 09:02 AM
    IceCold48
    I think he should get a shot but I don't think he will.

    I hope he doesn't have to fight Cain because I hate fights with teammates that have big implications they don't fight like themselves and it sucks.
  • 08-14-2012, 08:55 AM
    rivethead
    He's beaten better fighters than AO has, he should be the SF champ if he get's past Mir. Zuffa would be smart to cross-promote a title-contender bout with him and AO if he wins, they could pimp the "no, he's the real SF champ" for either fighter if it happens.

    DC > AO

    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    How is DC eligible to fight Jon Jones when the shot has already been promised to both Henderson and Machida? Seems to me like they should make him fight Shogun (assuming he is not fighting Goose)

    Not a fan of instant title shots without beating a contender for the title 1st.
    If you've ever asked yourself why I think you're an idiot, you should refer to this post.

    rh
  • 08-14-2012, 07:36 AM
    ichibabythecancrushe
    if not an immediate title shot i'd say werdum
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