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  • 09-11-2012, 07:19 PM
    GangGreenWarrior
    Maybe I am in the minority here, but I'm actually happy to read that Silva wants to fight another 6 years. I enjoy watching him fight. All bullshit and crying aside, 6 fights means you'll likely see him fight GSP, Weidman, maybe Diaz and then 3 more fights. I know I will be entertained him fight 6 additional times. Hopefully for Silva, his last 6 fights go better for him than they did for Fedor/Couture/Liddell/Tito/CroCop/etc.
  • 09-11-2012, 07:08 PM
    The Donosaur
    Quote Originally Posted by lwbrewer View Post
    Don't believe Anderson will get close to 6 years maybe 6 fights.

    On contenders for Anderson if Soares would stop flooding the media that every fighter isn't worthy to fight him maybe he would draw better money.

    GSP verses Silva This is a fight the UFC wants to happen$$$$ probely each of the sponsers too, or at least keep the idea in the air. All sponsers want their fighter in the public eye to help sell their product. GSP has been out of the loop for awhile and my guess is his sponsers wanted something like this talk to put him in the lime light again.
    Soares being what I think of him likes the GSP fight as a winnable fight with a great draw$$$ If he wanted his fighter to make a great legacy fighting Jones would be in the talks.
    It has already been established that 6 fights equals 6 years for Anderson. Hell he might even hold out for a fight against Michael Bisping Jr. in 2030 or a super fight against an Anderson Silva cyborg/human clone hybrid in 2042.
  • 09-11-2012, 05:03 PM
    lwbrewer
    Don't believe Anderson will get close to 6 years maybe 6 fights.

    On contenders for Anderson if Soares would stop flooding the media that every fighter isn't worthy to fight him maybe he would draw better money.

    GSP verses Silva This is a fight the UFC wants to happen$$$$ probely each of the sponsers too, or at least keep the idea in the air. All sponsers want their fighter in the public eye to help sell their product. GSP has been out of the loop for awhile and my guess is his sponsers wanted something like this talk to put him in the lime light again.
    Soares being what I think of him likes the GSP fight as a winnable fight with a great draw$$$ If he wanted his fighter to make a great legacy fighting Jones would be in the talks.
  • 09-11-2012, 04:40 PM
    YukonJordan
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    Why are you still pretending that GSP has no interest when there are other videos that suggest otherwise? If GSP didn't want this fight he could pull a Jon Jones and say hell no to Joe Silva. The fight simply wouldn't happen in the same manner that Silva is saying hell no to Jon Jones. You know how GSP is. He absolutely will not look beyond his current opponent and he shouldn't but regardless he has expressed equal interest. Please don't make it sound like GSP is being bullied into fighting Silva.


    If GSP wins then watch the post fight against Condit (we all know what Rogan is going to ask him). I will bet just about anything he publically goes on record on his quest to fight Silva.
    GSP is a fighter which is why he isn't outright saying no to this fight like Jones is. To say he has expressed equal interest is bullshit. I don't ever remember GSP sitting on the fence healthy waiting to fight Edgar while legitimate contenders are waiting for fights.

    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    If Silva didn't wait this fight which was suppose to happen after he beat Sonnen and GSP beat Shields would never happen. If those two are going to do this they need to do it while both are on a winning streak. A fight with either of the two if either lost wouldn't be as marketable.

    Its now or probably never and make no mistake fans want to see this fight.
    That's all correct but it doesn't change the fact that Anderson is waiting not defending his title while angling himself to get a fight with a smaller fighter.


    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    If GSP and Ben Henderson were on a tear hell I would want to see it especially with their wrestling and striking backgrounds. Although I will admit I would want to see Nick Diaz vs GSP more because he is a former champion with a proven track record. I haven't even bothered to look this up but does GSP have more title defenses than Diaz has fights? I am guessing no.
    How many fights Weidman has in comparison to Anderson's defenses has nothing to do with his legitimacy as a contender. If you're going to use that logic eventually nobody with under 20 fights will even be elligible to fight Silva.

    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    It wouldn't be any more of a spectable than Couture Vs Machida and James Toney (which by far was much worse)? Hell Fedor fighting Hong Man Choi and Zulu was also bullshit but it was fun to watch (vanity or freak fight).
    The difference is that Couture and Fedor weren't champions. Nobody is going to reference those fights when talking about Randy's or Fedor's careers except in a somewhat quizzical manner.

    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    So what would be the purpose in Silva fighting Jon Jones or do you disagree with these two fighting. Would this not be a vanity fight?
    Fighters move up in weight when they've "cleaned out" their divisions. They don't move down. Especially when they've not only already fought at the upper weight class but also because they, their management, the media and their fans all consistently brag about those outings at higher weight classes.
  • 09-11-2012, 04:21 PM
    YukonJordan
    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    That wont end well for Anderson if it holds true... I highly doubt he will fight for that long though...


    As for weidman, that fight will happen eventually... If he beats Boetch... then there is no case to be made as to why he doesnt deserve a title shot...

    To make Anderson and camp happy, the UFC should also put on a big Co-Main event to draw in more PPV buys, to make up for Anderson's lack of draw... although they should be doing that in the first place... Instead of banking cards around just the main event...

    put someone like Machida, Penn, etc in the co-main or even a title fight at one of the smaller classes.
    There I fixed it.
  • 09-11-2012, 03:23 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox View Post
    Weidman is the one. He has the best tools out of anyone Silva has faced to defeat him.
    Weidman deserves the shot, and does pose styleistic problems with Anderson... but some people are taking it too far...

    Is he more of a threat than guys like Hendo, Sonnen, Vitor, etc...

    I have also seen people say that Weidman would beat both GSP and Anderson... some even wanted him to fight Jones...

    I hope we see this fight sooner than later...
  • 09-11-2012, 05:02 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    You're really trying to make this work, and it just isn't logical.

    For instance, lets say that Fedor came to the UFC, and he wanted to fight Georges, because Georges was once considered the GOAT. It would be bullshit then, and it's bullshit now.

    It would even be bullshit for Fedor to have come to the UFC and not want to fight Cain right now, but to want to fight Anderson. Because Fedor is bigger than Anderson. So regardless of how you want to spin it, you've still got a bigger fighter picking a fight with a smaller fighter who has shown no interest in taking it. It's a vanity fight, and it's bullshit.
    Why are you still pretending that GSP has no interest when there are other videos that suggest otherwise? If GSP didn't want this fight he could pull a Jon Jones and say hell no to Joe Silva. The fight simply wouldn't happen in the same manner that Silva is saying hell no to Jon Jones. You know how GSP is. He absolutely will not look beyond his current opponent and he shouldn't but regardless he has expressed equal interest. Please don't make it sound like GSP is being bullied into fighting Silva.


    If GSP wins then watch the post fight against Condit (we all know what Rogan is going to ask him). I will bet just about anything he publically goes on record on his quest to fight Silva.



    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Belcher is unranked. He's not even top 10 right now. Weidman is ranked. He's the #1 contender. There is a huge difference in a #1 contender not wanting to fight an unranked fighter but accepting a fight with a top 5 contender in the division and a champion not fighting anyone at all while he waits for a fighter in a lower division to determine if he'll fight or not.
    If Silva didn't wait this fight which was suppose to happen after he beat Sonnen and GSP beat Shields would never happen. If those two are going to do this they need to do it while both are on a winning streak. A fight with either of the two if either lost wouldn't be as marketable.

    Its now or probably never and make no mistake fans want to see this fight.


    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    If Georges did this with Condit, or even Nick Diaz so he could wait to fight Ben Henderson nobody would defend him.
    If GSP and Ben Henderson were on a tear hell I would want to see it especially with their wrestling and striking backgrounds. Although I will admit I would want to see Nick Diaz vs GSP more because he is a former champion with a proven track record. I haven't even bothered to look this up but does GSP have more title defenses than Diaz has fights? I am guessing no.


    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    And nobody would be 100% correct, because it's indefensible. Because vanity fights are bullshit, regardless of how much money they're worth. You missed the point of the Charlie Sheen reference. It wasn't about Charlie. It was about creating a spectacle for the sake of sales that isn't good for the sport as a whole.
    It wouldn't be any more of a spectable than Couture Vs Machida and James Toney (which by far was much worse)? Hell Fedor fighting Hong Man Choi and Zulu was also bullshit but it was fun to watch (vanity or freak fight).


    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Bigger fighters are supposed to beat up smaller fighters. It's kind of like in a geometry test where they tell you the measurement of an angle. They call that a given.

    rh
    So what would be the purpose in Silva fighting Jon Jones or do you disagree with these two fighting. Would this not be a vanity fight?
  • 09-11-2012, 02:19 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    Obviously because noone gives a rats ass about Charlie Sheen nor was he at any point in MMA history ever considered G.O.A.T. There were times on HDNet where they had GSP ranked solidly behind Silva if not rank 2.
    You're really trying to make this work, and it just isn't logical.

    For instance, lets say that Fedor came to the UFC, and he wanted to fight Georges, because Georges was once considered the GOAT. It would be bullshit then, and it's bullshit now.

    It would even be bullshit for Fedor to have come to the UFC and not want to fight Cain right now, but to want to fight Anderson. Because Fedor is bigger than Anderson. So regardless of how you want to spin it, you've still got a bigger fighter picking a fight with a smaller fighter who has shown no interest in taking it. It's a vanity fight, and it's bullshit.

    Silva has more title defenses than Weidman has fights. For the same reason Weidman doesn't want to fight Belcher Silva's camp doesn't want to fight Weidman.
    Belcher is unranked. He's not even top 10 right now. Weidman is ranked. He's the #1 contender. There is a huge difference in a #1 contender not wanting to fight an unranked fighter but accepting a fight with a top 5 contender in the division and a champion not fighting anyone at all while he waits for a fighter in a lower division to determine if he'll fight or not.

    If Georges did this with Condit, or even Nick Diaz so he could wait to fight Ben Henderson nobody would defend him. And nobody would be 100% correct, because it's indefensible. Because vanity fights are bullshit, regardless of how much money they're worth. You missed the point of the Charlie Sheen reference. It wasn't about Charlie. It was about creating a spectacle for the sake of sales that isn't good for the sport as a whole.

    Bigger fighters are supposed to beat up smaller fighters. It's kind of like in a geometry test where they tell you the measurement of an angle. They call that a given.

    rh
  • 09-11-2012, 01:33 AM
    m1ckeykn0x
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    On Weidman (the guy that thinks hes too good to fight Belcher) hopefully he will be made short work of by someone so we can move on to better challenges for Silva.
    Weidman is the one. He has the best tools out of anyone Silva has faced to defeat him.

    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    Weidman is not a better draw than GSP. Period.
    Not many guys are.
  • 09-11-2012, 01:29 AM
    roaddawg
    Obviously because noone gives a rats ass about Charlie Sheen nor was he at any point in MMA history ever considered G.O.A.T. There were times on HDNet where they had GSP ranked solidly behind Silva if not rank 2.

    Silva has more title defenses than Weidman has fights. For the same reason Weidman doesn't want to fight Belcher Silva's camp doesn't want to fight Weidman.

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