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  • 10-18-2012, 01:18 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    That's simultaneously hilarious and sad. I actually feel sorry for you, your emotions are so clearly tied to a guy who has absolutely nothing to do with you.

    It's kind of pathetic that you not only feel compelled to defend the utterly undefend-able, but you also so with some clarity of understanding that the people you're trying to defend could give a flying fuck what you care, or I care, or anyone else cares, as long as they're cashing the easiest checks that they can.

    And yet, you'll probably need to respond to this, as well.

    rh
    I don't expect you to understand this but as a casual fan Silva is one of the few reasons I am remotely interested in watching MMA right now. The other fighters I like are either on the verge of retirement or are on current suspension.

    Well actually as a supposed "hardcore fan" maybe you do understand my point a view especially considering you once defended Fedor with equal vigor.

    The way I see it every MMA fan here casual/hardcore has that one special fighter that they will defend with ruthless aggression within limits ofcourse. I don't think you can honestly look in the mirror and say that most of the negative press that Silva receives is not without bias.

    Offtopic:
    One thing I know for sure is that when you are a dominant champion fans will consistantly want to see you challenged until you ultimately cross paths with your demise.
  • 10-17-2012, 06:43 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    Jorge Rivera: Anderson Silva Stronger Than He Looks, Winked When Hit
    On fighting Silva: “It was a long eight, nine minutes. The first thing that comes to mind is he was very accurate with his punches and he could take a good punch. I felt like he was extremely technical. Like he could pick apart the fight whenever he wanted to -- that’s what I felt like, that [he was] very in control of everything.”

    On whether he believed Silva was one of the best after fighting him: “I knew that, but I felt like we knew that going into that fight. There were rumors about him over at Chute Boxe, having wars with Wanderlei [Silva] and coming out on top. I was already worried about how good he was. I would watch him in Pride, and the one thing that stuck in my mind the most was his knee against Carlos Newton. I was a big Carlos Newton fan, and he ran through Carlos Newton in that fight as well. I knew he was very good. I knew that we hadn’t seen just how good he was yet.”

    On being in the clinch with Silva: “The first thing that came to my mind when I locked up with him was his strength. He doesn’t look nearly as strong as he is. He’s very, very strong. He’s a genius. He knows how to find good leverage. He has a way of making you feel every 185 pounds of him in there. You’re going to feel his body weight.”

    On Silva’s ability to dodge and absorb punches: “Maybe it’s the ability to read the body well, and it’s also his ability to take a good punch. He’s got a good-size head. He’s got a good, strong neck. He can take a good punch, but it may just be his natural God-given ability to read the human body well, to understand how it’s all connected and to be able to, with the eye, dissect it and know when it’s coming just by reading the shoulders and the hips and everything else.”

    On Silva dropping his hands and playing with opponents: “For me personally, that’s psychologically just demoralizing. You start to second-guess yourself. You’re looking at the guy and you’re wondering, what does he have? What does he know that’s allowing him to do this? What’s he going to come at me with? Every single move that you have, you’re wondering whether it’s going to be the right move, and then if you get caught, it compounds the situation. It makes it even worse. Now not only are you second-guessing yourself, you’re paying for it. It’s a tough, tough situation.”

    On actually hitting Silva: “I hit him with four right hands. They were grazing his left arm, but I gave him four pretty good shots to the face. The guy turned around and winked at me. Turned around and winked at me, literally winked at me.”
  • 10-17-2012, 05:59 PM
    rivethead
    That's simultaneously hilarious and sad. I actually feel sorry for you, your emotions are so clearly tied to a guy who has absolutely nothing to do with you.

    It's kind of pathetic that you not only feel compelled to defend the utterly undefend-able, but you also so with some clarity of understanding that the people you're trying to defend could give a flying fuck what you care, or I care, or anyone else cares, as long as they're cashing the easiest checks that they can.

    And yet, you'll probably need to respond to this, as well.

    rh
  • 10-17-2012, 05:29 PM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    If you genuinely feel he has nothing else to prove, why are you so utterly compelled to defend him every time someone points out that a GSP bout is a weak vanity fight?

    rh

    Because its sickening listening to people drag his name through the mud out of sheer bias. He seems to be in a catch 22 situation where nomatter what he does someone will have an excuse or a reason to ding him on.

    Hes too big to be fighting at mw and often enjoys an advantage. So he moves up to lhw to fight a top contender in Forest Griffin (someone whose of equal size if not a little larger) and his performance is just as dominant. Now suddenly Griffin was a easy match for him a match he should have won. Or Griffin's size gets devalued which again takes away credit from Silva's victory. Now he beat Bonnar someone who is argugably bigger than Griffin and now there are still excuses. Oh that fight was a joke and Bonnar had no business in the cage with him yet Bonnar has fought both Machida and Jon Jones.

    Now we are hearing people say shit like Oh he is just afraid of Jon Jones because he doesn't want to fight him. WTF? Jon Jones doesn't want to fight Silva as well so how does that even work?

    Again we have people crying about his legacy and his GOAT status as if there is someone presently ahead of him when actuality there is no one. For those of you who believe in the term GOAT you have no choice now but to accept Anderson Silva as the greatest fighter of all time and still running strong.

    I am willing to bet someone will reply and say some shit like well he needs to be fighting bigger guys. Well guess what there are no other bigger guys at lhw in top 5 other than Jones who has expressed equal disinterest in fighting Silva.

    What does he have to do next? Perhaps move up to heavyweight and fight JDS? If that is what he has to do to gain respect from people then that same offer should be equally applied to Jon Jones who should move up in weight and fight top competition just as big as him.

    There is always something people are complaining about and when they can't attack Silva they attack Soares. It's fucking annoying to me and unfair to Silva.

    That's my stance.
  • 10-17-2012, 02:38 AM
    rivethead
    If you genuinely feel he has nothing else to prove, why are you so utterly compelled to defend him every time someone points out that a GSP bout is a weak vanity fight?

    rh
  • 10-17-2012, 01:50 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post
    It doesn't hurt his legacy, but it does nothing for it either. His legacy at MW is secure, he's the best of all time. But if he wants to be the best P4P fighter ever, he needs to fight elite LHWs (Evans, Shogun, Bones, etc.).
    But why? It's not like theres another runner up for GOAT whose fit the criteria you mentioned. Any name you can think of has fell victim to defeat and in devastating fashion.

    Silva is the best fighter of all time period and still running strong. More impotantly noone else has as many successful title defenses. He has nothing else to prove to anyone other than himself. Also take into account he is not going around telling people he is the greating of all time its the fans and media saying that.

    All he has to do is continue his dominance and leave the rest up to the critics and honestly fuck what people think (my 2 little cents included).



    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    Anderson is scared of Jones


    GSP shouldnt have to move up and face the larger fighter...

    Anderson are both taller/longer fighters so they are about the same size.



    seems about right...



    Manny and Floyd are a lot closer in size... Floyd actually being the bigger of the two...

    Your comparison would make more sense if Anderson didnt want to fight GSP.
    The funny part is both guys has expressed disinterest in fighting eachother but only one is being accused of being scared.

    So I guess both Sonnen and Henderson are afraid to fight eachother too using that faulty assed logic. Like I always say if the grain is tainted don't eat that shit
  • 10-17-2012, 01:43 AM
    rivethead
    you guys are fowl.

    rh
  • 10-17-2012, 01:05 AM
    AnchorPunch
    Quote Originally Posted by TheKidInside View Post
    Why is he scared of a chicken?

    I thought he was half duck?
  • 10-17-2012, 01:02 AM
    TheKidInside
    Why is he scared of a chicken?

  • 10-17-2012, 01:01 AM
    AnchorPunch
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    He's been doubletalking--and I don't mean soares, I mean Anderson himself--for a while now. People think I hate him because I'm openly critical and I don't drink the love-festival-koolaide his fanboys do, but I'm actually a huge fan. I'm just frustrated, very similar as I was with Fedor, that he's not a complete fighter, that he's lost interest in accepting challenges and threats. If he does accept them, it's begrudgingly, and that's unfortunate.

    rh
    Couldn't agree more. I love watching Silva fight, he's amazing. I love seeing the training videos too, he's every bit as thoughtful, relaxed, and fun as you'd expect from what you see on fight night. But it's awful listening to his interviews and press recently.
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