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  • 10-08-2012, 11:12 PM
    rivethead
    For the record, I think bloodyelbow ranks among the worst MMA sites on the internet. I think the overall writing is dreadful, I think kid nate is a whiney little bitch--he sent his lawyers after us a couple years ago because I wouldn't allow their shit to be posted in the main forum. because their shit sucked, and most of it still does.

    Again, Jack Slack is the lone source of talent on that festering sore of a website. I don't always agree with him, but he's pretty solid. Perhaps he looks so good because of the company he keeps--kind of like a mildly attractive woman going out with her ugliest friends--but I don't have a problem with his stuff for the most part.

    rh
  • 10-08-2012, 11:04 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Just wondering Sak, by and large do you like the present editorial content Bloody Elbow puts out? I feel that when they had that shake up a few months back, they lost alot of good writers and now there's alot of poor, inarticulate writers and way too much Kid Nate.
  • 10-08-2012, 10:54 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Quote Originally Posted by dbader08 View Post
    You know, maybe Chuck could have learned a lesson from watching Maldonado box. Maybe he could have learned a lesson in PATIENCE. Maybe he could have learned how to use his lead hand more and not just throw wild right hands all the time. Then possibly he wouldn't have been so predictable and left himself so open and wouldnt have been horrendously knocked out on more than one occasion-the type of knock outs that will affect him for the rest of his life.

    BE could have easily done an article on how Chuck made huge, obvious mistakes in his knockout losses...

    ...like...leaving his hands completely down and throwing a hook to the body against Rampage without setting it up. Or leaving his hands completely down and starting a combo with a wide and telegraphed uppercut against Rashad. Or just rushing forward against Franklin with his chin up in the air, telegraphing just about every punch thrown in the combo that led to him getting countered and knocked out. But chances are, they were a fan of Chuck's so decided to make an article praising him instead.
    And you prove my point yet again.

    Praising article = good
    Negative article = bad

    These Judo Chop articles are some of the most well written articles on MMA hands down right now.

    Just because they show Maldanado to be highly overrated in his boxing doesn't mean it's a bad article. It just means you disagree.
  • 10-08-2012, 09:31 PM
    dbader08
    To be completely honest I don't think Fabio was overly worried about the power of Kingsberry or Pokrajac...I'm not saying there aren't also some flaws in his defense, but I think he may be a bit more careful against someone like Glover and it could serve him better. Also, Kingsberry is only landing a solid punch in like half of those pics...and most are jabs FFS. Kingsberry has the 4 inch reach advantage, and is going against someone with a pretty good chin. Obviously I am sure Maldonado didn't want to get hit with the jab, but I doubt he was too worried about it if it was enough to get inside and land a few punches of his own...

    Lets also not forget that Anderson conveniently enjoys quite a nice reach advantage which is huge when it comes to boxing. 4 inch reach advantage vs 4 inch reach advantage=huge.

    Plus, this is not boxing. These guys are not wearing boxing gloves. These guys have to worry about takedowns, leg kicks, submissions, etc, and Maldonado has barely any experience against good competition. Lets let the guy have a bit more experience and adapt to MMA a bit before we write his boxing off as "overrated"

    And although defense is more important to offense, offense is still very important obviously and the author basically focused on his defense. Fabio does excellent work with his lead hand upstairs and goes to the body better than anyone. There is a problem, however, in that he doesn't quite use his rear hand enough so in return he doesn't demand the respect from his opponents than someone with a strong rear hand would...and the fact that he isn't too quick on his feet, and doesn't utilize head movement enough, makes him a bit hittable. If someone were to have to worry about that right hand more it could make them a bit more hesitant...and if he utilized head movement more he'd be less hittable. Hopefully he realizes Glover is his biggest test and tries to make a couple adjustments.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    Broken record time. Everyone is on Maldanado's nuts for his boxing when it isn't that good and BE did a GREAT job at illustrating why he's so overrated.
    You know, maybe Chuck could have learned a lesson from watching Maldonado box. Maybe he could have learned a lesson in PATIENCE. Maybe he could have learned how to use his lead hand more and not just throw wild right hands all the time. Then possibly he wouldn't have been so predictable and left himself so open and wouldnt have been horrendously knocked out on more than one occasion-the type of knock outs that will affect him for the rest of his life.

    BE could have easily done an article on how Chuck made huge, obvious mistakes in his knockout losses...

    ...like...leaving his hands completely down and throwing a hook to the body against Rampage without setting it up. Or leaving his hands completely down and starting a combo with a wide and telegraphed uppercut against Rashad. Or just rushing forward against Franklin with his chin up in the air, telegraphing just about every punch thrown in the combo that led to him getting countered and knocked out. But chances are, they were a fan of Chuck's so decided to make an article praising him instead.
  • 10-08-2012, 09:29 PM
    trustkill
    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    Yep... Anytime Rogan spews something from the mouth fans will latch onto it and take it as fact. That is the only reason why his boxing is overrated....

    However I will say getting Hit a lot doesnt necessarily make you a poor boxer... Some boxers rely on their strengths and if they have a good chin, they dont care about getting hit...

    JDS, Diaz, Nelson also get hit a lot, does that mean they all have poor boxing by MMA standards?



    I dont understand... they showed how Fabio did it incorrectly, while Anderson used solid technique...
    I'm not a boxer or a boxing coach, and I definitely drank the Joe Rogan Kool-Aid in regards to Maldonado's boxing. Obviously, he works the body like nobody else in the UFC, but upon closer inspection (after reading this article) my opinion was completely changed. That's why I posted it.

    Intellectual challenges are a good thing and should be embraced.
  • 10-08-2012, 08:57 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    Too many high horses these days on this site.
    Hello Pot, there's somebody I'd like to introduce you to
  • 10-08-2012, 07:09 PM
    rivethead
    I despise bloodyelbow, but I don't have a problem with these breakdowns. Jack Slack is the lone bright spot on that chancre of a website. He's knows his stuff, doesn't speculate wildly, and is a solid writer.

    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    JDS, Diaz, Nelson also get hit a lot, does that mean they all have poor boxing by MMA standards?
    To be fair, Slack isn't talking about MMA standards. He's talking about boxing. And none of them are great pure boxers.

    rh
  • 10-08-2012, 06:19 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    I love how this is now the 'norm' here at MMA News forums:

    *doesn't agree with the article
    *"The article is shit! The writer's kids should be murdered!"

    Funny I posted the same article but about Chuck Liddell and everyone was like "Oh gee whiz, this is a great article!" But now BE is shit, blah blah blah blah blah.

    Broken record time. Everyone is on Maldanado's nuts for his boxing when it isn't that good and BE did a GREAT job at illustrating why he's so overrated.

    And they didn't compare him to Anderson Silva, they compared their boxing techniques. If Maldanado is soooooo good at boxing, then it would show. Anderson isn't a pure boxer like Maldanado is touted and he couldn't hold Anderson's jock in technique.

    Too many high horses these days on this site.
  • 10-08-2012, 03:47 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Yep... Anytime Rogan spews something from the mouth fans will latch onto it and take it as fact. That is the only reason why his boxing is overrated....

    However I will say getting Hit a lot doesnt necessarily make you a poor boxer... Some boxers rely on their strengths and if they have a good chin, they dont care about getting hit...

    JDS, Diaz, Nelson also get hit a lot, does that mean they all have poor boxing by MMA standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    Way to go Bloody Elbow. Great job producing an article comparing Maldonado to Anderson Silva.
    I dont understand... they showed how Fabio did it incorrectly, while Anderson used solid technique...
  • 10-08-2012, 04:40 AM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    Way to go Bloody Elbow. Great job producing an article comparing Maldonado to Anderson Silva.
    Exactly.

    Bloody Elbow has gotten fucking brutal, it seems like they let anybody write an "article", which more often than not, is completely idiotic.
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