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  • 10-13-2012, 07:45 AM
    BonesKnows
    Quote Originally Posted by Pasha K View Post
    How would Jones vs Sonnen be the biggest fight in the UFC history? It would not be even close. It is actually a complete mismatch, almost a freak show.
    look at all the stuff they cant use to hype it; TUF, Jones ducking him the first time, chaels mouth, jones legacy and all the hype that he brings to every fight...It doesnt take a marketing guru to know how to turn this fight into the "Biggest fight in UFC history" (a term that has been thrown around a lot recently by the UFC in their marketing of fights)

    and to CT so what if he never gets to wear gold, being the guy that beat AS's ass for 4 1/2 rounds is a pretty good accomplishment on account of know one else being able to say they did the same thing

    CM
  • 10-13-2012, 05:26 AM
    The Donosaur
    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Sonnen makes those statements because he WANTS A BELT. He has never tasted UFC gold, and he never will taste UFC gold. His biggest accomplishment will forever be that he gave silva a tough challenge when nobody expected him too.
    I wouldn't guarantee that he will NEVER be champ. Silva could retire, and Sonnen is very capable of putting a few wins together.
  • 10-13-2012, 02:18 AM
    CtGreat
    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    Not obligated, its still on Joe Silva and the UFC to make the fight. If the UFC came to Bones and said "Beltran is next up" imo Jones should say "Yes sir, thank you sir" and get in and start training. If your the best and believe you are the best the opponent shouldnt matter.

    To be honest, outside of Glover, Cormier and Sonnen i dont hear many people calling out Jon Jones.

    Chael says it best "If your all scared of a 23 year old kid turn your gloves in, sign the pink slip and show yourself the door, the one guy that says he gets to fight him comes out and says "but i dont want to fight him.." well if you dont wanna fight him...go!! this is a business to become CHAMPION. All these guys wanna tell everybody they are in the UFC but dont want to carry the heavy water. Look challenge Jon Jones if you are at 205"

    Ariel then asks; "i know you fight at 185, but if the UFC did offer you that fight (with jones) would you take it?"

    Chael responds with; "I will fight any man god ever made, period."

    ^^^^thats how every fighter should be when it comes to fighting (IMO)

    CM
    Sonnen makes those statements because he WANTS A BELT. He has never tasted UFC gold, and he never will taste UFC gold. His biggest accomplishment will forever be that he gave silva a tough challenge when nobody expected him too.
  • 10-13-2012, 02:12 AM
    Pasha K
    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    Chael beats forrest, calls out bones in the middle of the octagon and Jones unlike AS steps up and accepts the fight right there in the octagon. At the post fight presser Dana announces the fight is going to happen next and that they will be coaching against eachother in TUF. Chael will be chael and jones will be jones, the fight will go down as the biggest fight in UFC history thanks to chaels hype, TUF and UFC ads. Chael gets paid big $$$$ jones gets paid big $$$$ and defends his title for the 5th time


    thats how i see it playing out, and as a bones/sonnen fan im 100% fine with it

    CM
    How would Jones vs Sonnen be the biggest fight in the UFC history? It would not be even close. It is actually a complete mismatch, almost a freak show.
  • 10-12-2012, 10:38 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    We all get it...

    Things change when its on 8 days notice...

    how hard is that to understand...

    the last week is devoted to weight cutting and media... how much game planning and drilling can they do to actually prepare for the fight...
  • 10-12-2012, 10:36 PM
    KevoOnTheRadio
    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    Not obligated, its still on Joe Silva and the UFC to make the fight. If the UFC came to Bones and said "Beltran is next up" imo Jones should say "Yes sir, thank you sir" and get in and start training. If your the best and believe you are the best the opponent shouldnt matter.
    That I agree with. Once the UFC says you're fighting opponent "X", that's who you fight.
  • 10-12-2012, 10:33 PM
    BonesKnows
    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post


    So by that logic if Joey Beltran called out Bones, he would be obligated to fight him.
    Not obligated, its still on Joe Silva and the UFC to make the fight. If the UFC came to Bones and said "Beltran is next up" imo Jones should say "Yes sir, thank you sir" and get in and start training. If your the best and believe you are the best the opponent shouldnt matter.

    To be honest, outside of Glover, Cormier and Sonnen i dont hear many people calling out Jon Jones.

    Chael says it best "If your all scared of a 23 year old kid turn your gloves in, sign the pink slip and show yourself the door, the one guy that says he gets to fight him comes out and says "but i dont want to fight him.." well if you dont wanna fight him...go!! this is a business to become CHAMPION. All these guys wanna tell everybody they are in the UFC but dont want to carry the heavy water. Look challenge Jon Jones if you are at 205"

    Ariel then asks; "i know you fight at 185, but if the UFC did offer you that fight (with jones) would you take it?"

    Chael responds with; "I will fight any man god ever made, period."

    ^^^^thats how every fighter should be when it comes to fighting (IMO)

    CM
  • 10-12-2012, 10:10 PM
    CtGreat
    Saying that Sonnen deserves a shot at the belt with a win over Forrest Griffen, is even more crazy as saying that Bisping deserves a shot at Silva after a fight with Stann.
  • 10-12-2012, 09:48 PM
    Kimbo> Rampage
    Make the fight happen. The fans want to see it.
    Quote Originally Posted by W.Silva>C.Norris View Post
    Jones must have gotten that new nightlight for his bedroom. I guess a chael fight isnt as scary when there's a lot less chance of it actually happening.
  • 10-12-2012, 09:44 PM
    KevoOnTheRadio
    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    So if AS wanted a shot at Bones for the belt would he be at the back of the line at 205? or would his fights against James Irvin, Forrest and now bonnar be enough to get him a shot?

    It seems like its a double standard for some fighters but not others. Rankings are opinion based at best, my 205 rankings could be different from yours, or RH's or even Joe Silvas.

    Its these "rankings" that are killing good potential fights, ie Glover vs. Shogun (and anyone else for that matter who tunred down that fight because he wasnt a big enough draw)

    Jones said something that i dont really agree with as well;

    ""A part of me wants to do it for the fans the other part of me feels as if it delegitimizes the importance of [a] championship," Jones tweeted.""

    Delegitimizes the importancve of a championship? How so? Because he doesnt fit into your "rankings" yet fighting Vitor doesnt do the exact same thing?

    For me it goes like this; Your the champion, you fight anyone that calls out your name. Thats the great thing about being champion, you have what everyone else wants, and if you arent willing to give everyone a shot at the belt then you shouldnt be the champion

    maybe im oldschool or however you want to put it, thats just how i feel

    CM
    But the difference is Silva has fought and won at LHW in the UFC. And while I think a win against Bonnar wouldn't earn Silva a hypothetical title shot, it would put him a fight away. Sonnen on the other hand hasn't won a fight at LHW in the UFC. At all. I'm not opposed to him getting a fight with Bones, I just think he should have to do more then beat Forrest Griffin to get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by BonesKnows View Post
    and if you arent willing to give everyone a shot at the belt then you shouldnt be the champion
    So by that logic if Joey Beltran called out Bones, he would be obligated to fight him.
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