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  • 11-27-2012, 06:20 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    I believe GSP made 4k or 5k his first fight in the UFC.
  • 11-27-2012, 06:13 PM
    0mega1
    Quote Originally Posted by Sniggles View Post
    That's not how Capitalism works.
    Nope, in Capitalism you have to earn your keep.

    If you want Dana White money then you need Dana White's job. The reason why these no name guys get $5K per show is because there are a 1000 other no name fighters willing to take your spot (some would do it for free just for the opportunity). Once you've become a known commodity then your pay scale will reflect that...

    and thats exactly how capitalism works; if you're easily replaceable (which all bottom tier fighters are) then your pay will reflect that. Hence why GSP makes serious coin.
  • 11-27-2012, 06:08 PM
    Sakara=Excitement
    Quote Originally Posted by 0mega1 View Post
    Did you just break out your inner Yoda?
    Well good to see at least someone caught that, lol.
  • 11-27-2012, 06:01 PM
    JPeezy
    I don't know about you guys, but every time I turn on my TV I see Peyton Manning in a commercial. He makes $13 million a year in endorsements. I can't imagine GSP makes more that Peyton does.
  • 11-27-2012, 05:54 PM
    0mega1
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    So concerned you only watch 2 to 5 events....at a bar?

    Real concerned you are.
    Did you just break out your inner Yoda?
  • 11-27-2012, 05:32 PM
    BonesKnows
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR View Post
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    If GSP is indeed making that kinda bank, it is largely in part to being Canadian. I dunno much about Canadian athletes outside of Gretzky and Bret Hart, but certainly they dont have the number of banakable guys like U.S. has.

    Being a foreign born MMA fighter has a lot of advantages. A fighter can more easily represent his country, like GSP does for Canada, A.S./Shogun/Machida/Vitor/Wandy/Nogs/Aldo do for Brazil, Gustaffson does for Sweden, Bisping/Hardy do for U.K.
    I think what you are saying here is pretty much right, if you look at GSP's last 3 fights all of them have been in Canada and all have had top gates in the UFC. And im not 100% sure on this, but since he is a canadian athlete doesnt he get taxed less then if he was american?

    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post
    Doin it big...

    His camps and day to day must cost a fortune, given the information we have seen... But with that kind of money, it wouldnt even put a dent into it.
    Im not sure it costs him a fortune, hes got a lot of good UFC guys that train with him at Jackson's/Tri Star and i dont think they get a piece of his purse unless he brings in someone that is not in one of those 2 camps, or if he travels to someone elses camp.

    Quote Originally Posted by travtera View Post
    There's lots of Canadians earning big coin in hockey. A guy like Sidney Crosby is probably raking in 15 million, sponsors included. He's a poster boy up here for pretty much everything. Lots of other players have multi-million dollar yearly salaries in the 5-10 Million range. Add in endorsements and they're doing pretty well for themselves.
    You'd be surprised to hear that not a lot of players make a huge pay day in the NHL (compared to say NFL/MLB/NBA). Because there is a cap in place, players see between 7-10 million and crosby is one of those players (making 7.5 million) a season and then a handfull of other making 10-14 million (Weber,Richards,Tyler Myers,Parise,Sutter,Kovalcuck, and Vinny L).
  • 11-27-2012, 04:33 PM
    adamatfullers
    @ v3xi "They take a lot of risk for not a lot of gain regardless if they suck or not."

    BACK TO MY ORIGINAL STATEMENT

    If you don't like your job or feel you don't get paid properly for your risk....Go find a different JOB. This is America.
  • 11-27-2012, 10:31 AM
    Rise
    Quote Originally Posted by v3xi View Post
    I never said their value is high, but I am saying that they should still be getting more because it will indirectly make the fighters better at what they do and they are fighting in the "pros" for their sport. They take a lot of risk for not a lot of gain regardless if they suck or not.

    I don't know what the last question has to do with anything but I am sure you already know my answer. How about this, if I paid $1000 (or whatever it is) for ringside seats to UFC 153, I would be there at 8pm watching every single fight. How bout that?
    Would you still pay that $1000 if there was no main card or fx prelims? That's what the question has to do about it you pay for something based on the value it has to you. You are saying these fighters deserve more when they haven't proven a tangible value. UFC 154 still sells as many PPVs and arena seats whether Steven Siler or Andre Gashimov are on the card how can you really say they are worth more.

    You keep siting risk like these guys are made of glass and break all the time. They don't mma fighters who have somewhat successful careers remain in the sport for a good portion of time and the ones that do retire normally do so because they can't compete anymore not because of career ending injuries. Career ending injuries are pretty rare in MMA.

    Do you not feel people in the workplace should be compensated based on what they bring to the company they work for?

    Another couple questions for you why is it we hear more outsiders calling for pay raises for these fighters then current or past fighters ? and why are the guys with managers/trainers with lots of experience in the business ok with the current business model and pay scales and your not?
  • 11-27-2012, 10:10 AM
    YukonJordan
    Quote Originally Posted by kalebarker View Post
    GSP won athelete of the year on Sportsnet's annual poll in an olympic year where Crosby won had the game winning goal and best start to a season in a long time. He is huge in canada. Not just in Canada, but the entire world, he is one of the most marketable atheletes in MMA. Him making $15 million shouldn't be a surprise.



    They also get money that goes towards scholarships after the CHL. The CHL isn't a pro league. It's still Junior hockey.
    To be fair your average MMA fan is much more likely to have a larger, more active online presence than your average hockey fan. Also as the network that leads in MMA coverage in Canada, Sportsnet has a vested interest in not only promoting GSP but MMA in general.

    In 2010 Crosby won the Rocket Richard trophy and the Mark Messier Leadership Award plus the previously mentioned golden goal which is a moment inscribed into Canadian history.

    In 2010 all GSP did was beat Dan Hardy and Josh Koschek. Can't really compare that to what Crosby did.
  • 11-27-2012, 09:11 AM
    v3xi
    Where did I say anything about exciting or being a useless piece of shit ? I said clearly "value to the company" meaning if they aren't headlining and are relatively new and unknown their value isn't high.

    Your definition of better entails higher paying contracts that I don't feel they have earned.

    Let me ask you a question would you pay the same kind of money that ufc charges for ringside seats to go see a regional show with relatively unknown fighters ?
    I never said their value is high, but I am saying that they should still be getting more because it will indirectly make the fighters better at what they do and they are fighting in the "pros" for their sport. They take a lot of risk for not a lot of gain regardless if they suck or not.

    I don't know what the last question has to do with anything but I am sure you already know my answer. How about this, if I paid $1000 (or whatever it is) for ringside seats to UFC 153, I would be there at 8pm watching every single fight. How bout that?
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