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  • 11-27-2012, 01:36 AM
    v3xi
    Anderson seems to just want to avoid MMA in general until an easy fight presents itself.

    GSP should leave Hendricks hanging and go make Rocky 7 or Terminator 5 with his buddies Sly and Arnold. At least he has movie star friends with some talent. In part of that french interview he just did GSP actually credited the T-2000 for teaching him his awesome take downs.
  • 11-27-2012, 01:31 AM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by Leucoethiops View Post
    You're just talking nonsense now. What 'big' names have they cut for having consecutive losses? Chuck? Tito? Rampage? Forrest? Wanderlei? Hendo? Machida? Penn? Edgar? Arlovski? Lesnar? Hughes?

    They don't cut their established meal tickets, ever.
    There was that time they cut Leben after he lost 4 out of 6. And that time they cut Hardy after losing 4 in a row.

    Right?


    Hey, waitaminute...that's not what happened at aaaaaaaaaaaaaaallll.


    Well, in their defense, both those guys are big name/huge draw/overpromoted guys. They're waaaay bigger than Anderson and Georges. Those poor schmucks better toe the line, because they're not getting an inch of leeway.

    Can you imagine the company-line blowback if a drone like Georges or Anderson suddenly announced he wasn't going to fight for a year to make shit movies with a ponytailed donut of a has-been? They'd be fired so fast, their pink slip would turn red from embarrassment.

    rh
  • 11-26-2012, 11:26 PM
    The Joker
    Quote Originally Posted by CapCee View Post
    I have a hard time believing Anderson Silva weighs 234 lbs. Maybe at 5pm on Thanksgiving Day before dropping a 30-minute deuce.
    It's been documented several times (I made a post about it here http://www.mmanews.com/forums/genera...tml#post952771).
  • 11-26-2012, 11:12 PM
    Leucoethiops
    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    What world are you living in bro? They both are employeed by the UFC and are under contract. They can either play ball or break their contract but ultimately they would be doing more harm to their own careers than to the UFC. If both of them were to walk out right now the UFC would simply move on and the hype machine would simply find and market the next big thing (if not refocusing on JJ).
    The UFC would not 'simply' move on with the hype machine marketting the next big thing. With GSP and Silva being established divisional kingpins and ppv draws, there would be a huge gap left by them not fighting. The UFC can't afford to damage itself to the extent it would by cutting both GSP and Silva. If either guy doesn't want the fight, it won't happen; because neither guy has to do it. They'll just continue to fight in their division. The guy who wanted the fight, may have additional leverage in negotiations; commanding a slightly larger salary to fight opponents he should be fighting anyways.

    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    Dana White had no problems with threating to cut Anderson Silva after his fight with Maia.
    Dana is borderline retarded when he gets emotional. I'm sure he could be riled up enough to try to cut Anderson, just as I'm sure that Lorenza and Frank would put the kibosh on that endeavour.

    Quote Originally Posted by roaddawg View Post
    The UFC doesnt care about big names. They have a history of cutting guys after consecutive losses.
    You're just talking nonsense now. What 'big' names have they cut for having consecutive losses? Chuck? Tito? Rampage? Forrest? Wanderlei? Hendo? Machida? Penn? Edgar? Arlovski? Lesnar? Hughes?

    They don't cut their established meal tickets, ever.
  • 11-26-2012, 10:31 PM
    rivethead
    Quote Originally Posted by kingrobert View Post
    Dana White job is to make the fights fans want to see. Like it or not he runs a business and also wants to make money. I know thats a dumb idea for a business man to have. Silva vs GSP and Silva vs Jones are the two biggest money making fights out there.
    You're welcome to your perception, but I'd think his job is to improve his product, not pick low-hanging fruit.

    While I think some fans want to see the superfight, I think others want to see the UFC continue to evolve, want to see MMA continue to be legitimized and to realize it's full potential.

    This superfight would do none of those things. Think about all the ridiculously dumb things boxing-or-die fools say about MMA right now: it's gay, it's cockfighting, etc. All of them are easily dismissed.

    But they'd be able to legitimately say that the guy who is promoted as the very best MMA has to offer if declining to fight anyone but a guy who fights in a weight class below him right now. They'd be correct in saying it.

    That's unfortunate, in my opinion.

    Integrity is two fighters fighting cause they both think there the best and want to be considered the GOAT!!!
    Neither would be considered the GOAT after this bout. Certainly NOT Anderson if it happens and he wins. When two guys of equal skill fight, the bigger guy is supposed to win. That's the way size works.

    In this instance, I wasn't referring to individual integrity. I was referring to the integrity of the belt, of the organization as a whole.

    rh
  • 11-26-2012, 10:07 PM
    dmc_tim
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR View Post
    I'm glad to hear this coming from GSP. He's got a coach and friend in Zahabi looking out after him too. He's not pursuing money fights, but simply to accomplish his goal as the best WW of all time. GSP must know fights with Hendricks, Diaz and rematches with Fitch, Condit down the line wont be huge money generators as a fight with Silva, but he's willing to fulfill his duties at WW first and foremost.

    And let's face it...Ed Soares wants $$$ fights for Silva. Ones that he can win too, which is why they are actively pursuing GSP and making excuses and demands when asked about fighting Jones.

    I just wonder since GSP will defend his title next fight, is Silva gonna do the same or will he take his year long layoff that he stated?
    do any of you think GSP will actually fight with silva? i mean "I wanna take care of my challengers @ WW before i do anything with silva" the problem with that is that there are new challengers every year or so so him saying that would essentially eliminate any possibility of a GSP/Silva superfight. and people are always gonna make the excuse "Well each fighter needs to take care of their weight class first before thinking about this" hello, newsflash: Silva has cleaned out the MW division and no one has beat silva . wiedman wont, sonnen wont. GSP has cleaned out WW. beat fitch, hughes, Condit, Serra, Penn , Alves upon others. how many more beatings are GSP and Silva gonna have to give before everyone can agree on a superfight?

    Quit making excuses. this is the fight to happen. Not Hendricks/GSP or Wiedman/Silva , not Jones/Silva but GSP/Silva.
  • 11-26-2012, 09:46 PM
    carbondioxide830
    His terms lol...gtfo gsp..
  • 11-26-2012, 09:36 PM
    LukeSalvatore
    GSP shouldn't take this fight unless it's at 170. GSP isn't at his best at MW, he's at his best at WW, so while he could make MW to fight a bigger opponent, it's actually kind of silly. If a fighter wants to move to other weight classes, go ahead, but no one should be forced to move to fight at another weight class just because they crush their division.
  • 11-26-2012, 09:32 PM
    kingrobert
    Quote Originally Posted by rivethead View Post
    Sadly, I still think it's going to happen. Money talks.

    I think it will get drawn out pathetically long, but it will eventually happen. I think Anderson is too big of a draw/diva and is unwilling to fight again unless he gets his vanity fight. All dana sees is $$, he has no concept of integrity.



    I'm sure the two morons will be thrilled when it does. Because nothing tastes like a real victory than getting cybervindicated by events that would have happened even if you were never, ever born.

    rh
    Dana White job is to make the fights fans want to see. Like it or not he runs a business and also wants to make money. I know thats a dumb idea for a business man to have. Silva vs GSP and Silva vs Jones are the two biggest money making fights out there.

    Integrity is two fighters fighting cause they both think there the best and want to be considered the GOAT!!!
  • 11-26-2012, 09:14 PM
    v3xi
    Quote Originally Posted by rampage9712 View Post


    How many times have you said that... Quit responding if you dont like it...

    I was talking to those who think "Anderson should have to fight Jones" talking about superfights, which you dont care for in the first place, so why even interject yourself into the discussion.
    Quit spreading false bullshit. Repeating the truth is never beating a dead horse.

    Most of us think Anderson should be defending his belt and don't really care for superfights BUT if there was a superfight that made sense it would be Anderson and Jones because they are way closer in weight than Anderson and GSP is.
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