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  • 12-04-2012, 05:08 AM
    TapOut27
    Not an amateur wrestler, he is an Olympic Wrestler
  • 12-04-2012, 04:57 AM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Quote Originally Posted by TapOut27 View Post
    Ben Askren pins everyone on that list except for Cormier due to size.

    Also people forget that Askren is a good BJJ practitioner. He is a legit Brown Belt, and trains with Marcello Garcia. He always has wrestled "funky"...he knows what he leaves out for subs and such.
    I agree with you to an extent, however I call into question just how well he knows when and for how long to leave stuff out for subs, before he gets into serious danger. Despite being a brown belt and rolling with Garcia, he can't give the kind of looks he has to great BJJ grapplers, and he hasn't faced any to date. Askren can be funky against Lima, and he terrified me with how many looks he was giving Lima for subs, but I can think of too many guys who can grab a limb like what he leaves out and sub him.

    I think Askren's an incredible amateur wrestler, but I don't believe he's faced enough competition to vet his submission defense to be catagorized as a top five MMA wrestler yet. I know he calls his style funky and all, but sometimes I think he takes too many risks, leaves stuff out and comes off as needlessly careless and sloppy.
  • 12-04-2012, 03:42 AM
    TapOut27
    Ben Askren pins everyone on that list except for Cormier due to size.

    Also people forget that Askren is a good BJJ practitioner. He is a legit Brown Belt, and trains with Marcello Garcia. He always has wrestled "funky"...he knows what he leaves out for subs and such.
  • 12-04-2012, 02:45 AM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR View Post
    Josh Koscheck belongs on that list as well. In fact he should be right behind GSP as he is the only WW to ever takedown GSP.
    hughes took down gsp in their first fight and armbared him.
  • 12-04-2012, 12:18 AM
    BonesKnows
    Im assuming they mean MMA wrestling, its hard to put GSP infront of an Olympic wrestler if they are not focusing on the MMA aspect of it
  • 12-03-2012, 10:32 PM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Outside of the top two, I think it is really up for debate and they probably would've done themselves a service by rounding out the top ten, as there are many potential oversights here.

    I wouldn't consider Askren's as a top five personally, if only because he isn't fighting anywhere near the WWs with TDD that the UFC roster offers and that his style of wrestling leaves him wide open for submissions, which I believe could be exploited against a higher caliber fighter.

    Names I'd suggest be added into the top tier conversation include:
    Rashad, Davis, Gray, Mo, Cain, Sonnen, Woodley, Munoz and Hendricks, maybe Mendes and Volkmann. Outside of ZUFFA alongside Askren, I'd recommend Nathan Coy and obviously Bubba Jenkins and Joe Warren.

    Also, there is a really big difference between MMA wrestling and NCAA wrestling, catagorization is very subjective here. Are we going off of credentials or applicability in an actual MMA bout?
  • 12-03-2012, 10:30 PM
    H0SS
    I don't understand this list... what is the criteria?
  • 12-03-2012, 10:15 PM
    MMA4EVERRR
    Quote Originally Posted by CtGreat View Post
    Are we talking MMA wrestling? If so, then how could you not have Rashad Evans in there? He has taken down every single opponent but Jones and Machida which are his only 2 losses, and he has never been swept.

    I would even put Jones and Phil Davis in there instead of Weidman . Cormier has high caliber wrestling, but I dont recall him using it much in his fights.
    Agree, Rashad has one of best MMA wrestling as well. Even Cain Velasquez as he has taken down HW a lot bigger than him with relative ease.

    Weidman belongs on that list, or should be ranked higher than Phil Davis. I believe Weidman holds victories over both Davis and Bader back in college.

    Josh Koscheck belongs on that list as well. In fact he should be right behind GSP as he is the only WW to ever takedown GSP. As great as Askren's wrestling credentials are, he has not faced any high caliber wrestlers in Bellator. Lets first see how he holds out against guys like GSP, Kos, Fitch, Hendricks before we decide to put him on that list.
  • 12-03-2012, 10:15 PM
    Luc1an
    Chael?
  • 12-03-2012, 10:14 PM
    The Donosaur
    It is a confusing list, are they going by wrestling, mma wrestling, or wrestling credentials? I don't have a problem with anybody on there, but I'd make it top ten, and include Sonnen, Maynard, Rashad, Edgar, and Bones.
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