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  • 01-10-2013, 05:21 PM
    SimpleJack
    I would love to see him fight Shogun. Two of my faves that would ABSOLUTELY put on a show...at least for a while. I'm also really bummed that he and Hendo never locked horns at 185.

    I think people underestimate Mousasi's striking. The guy has been to the VERY TOP of the mountain and excelled. His ground game isn't bad either.

    All of that being said, if he can't sprawl against a TRULY elite wrestler, he's toast in the UFC LHW division when you consider the likes of Davis, Evans, Jones, Sonnen, Henderson, and even Bader.
  • 01-10-2013, 05:10 PM
    CtGreat
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    Gegard has been and will always be TO ME one of the most over rated fighters of all time.
    I don't know if I can say "all time", since he isn't relevant enough to even be in that category. Vitor Belfort will absolutely earn that title if Bisping beats him. I definitely feel this guy is overrated though. No matter how many of his fights I watch online or highlight videos, I just don't see anything special about him that makes him stand out amongst the rest.
  • 01-10-2013, 04:49 PM
    Cat--Smasher
    Gegard Mousasi and the frustration of ‘overrated’

    "Maybe [because I was overseas]," Mousasi mulls, his thick accent hardly hiding his frustration. "I don't know. I see some fighters lose very badly, but still they get more praise or they're not overrated. They're just good fighters in a lot of people's eyes. But I feel like one loss with King Mo, it made me a very bad fighter somehow.

    "When I first fought in the U.S., there was a lot of attention. And then after that loss, there wasn't actually that much interest. I see now, it's experience. I get [more] mature. I understand now things how work."
    "The prospect of going to the UFC and maybe fighting one day for the belt, it's motivating. It's something new. So every fight I see now is more important to me because I have a goal, going for the UFC belt."
    "I see a lot of fighters getting knocked out, but they still, they praise them a lot more than me. I haven't been beaten badly in any fight. I just lost one fight in, I don't know how many fights. I think people underestimate me. And I feel like now, with the good training I have, why shouldn't I be able to fight these UFC fighters?"
    "This is the time. If I don't do it now, maybe I wont get a second chance. I feel like everything is falling into its place."
    Gegard Mousasi and the frustration of ?overrated? - MMA Fighting





    Gegard Mousasi Wants to Show He is One of the Top Three Light Heavyweights in the World
    “It was difficult, but it was also good because I was not motivated, and now I have that drive again. I really want to show everybody what I can do. That’s a plus point and I’m focusing on that,” Mousasi told MMAWeekly Radio about the time off he’s had lately.

    “The training I’m doing now, I’m a lot more professional and I really had a good training camp. I had good trainers, good sparring partners, so everything fell in place. It wasn’t like clowning around a lot so it gave me good motivation to show what I can really do.”

    When he’s on point, Mousasi remains one of the most dangerous fighters in the world at 205lbs, and if his training really was less than the best before now, he could become an even bigger threat when he moves to the UFC.

    With Strikeforce on the verge of closing its doors after Saturday night, Mousasi now has a goal of debuting in the Octagon later this year and showing the world what he can do when fully prepared and motivated.

    The only way to ensure a trip to the UFC however is to beat Mike Kyle this weekend.

    “The main focus is actually this fight because you never know because you have to perform and I have to win. After that, I think going to the UFC is the plan, and after talking to my management it should be a done deal. First I have a fight with Strikeforce and that’s the most important thing,” said Mousasi.
    “I’m glad the fans are excited about the fights, especially stand-up fighters like Shogun (Rua), (Lyoto) Machida, or (Alexander) Gustafsson, I think those are fights that are going to be exciting,” Mousasi stated.

    It’s not enough though for Mousasi to just be another face in the crowd or an exciting fighter who goes through the ebb and flow of victories and defeats. No, Mousasi wants to be defined as a top contender and eventually a challenger to Jon Jones and the UFC light heavyweight title.

    “That’s my goal to show that I am in the top five or the top three (in the world),” Mousasi stated.

    “I feel like I have the potential and with the right training and the right mentality I can do it, and I feel that way right now. January 12 is the date I will show it.”
    Gegard Mousasi Wants to Show He is One of the Top Three Light Heavyweights in the World | MMAWeekly.com
  • 01-10-2013, 08:22 AM
    initial_zen
    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post
    I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, I'm saying he hasn't shown me anything to say he can swim with the sharks at LHW. Bones, Evans, Goose, Shogun, Machida, Glover all beat him. He has no wins at LHW over anything but second tier fighters, and he's gone 0-1-1 against anything resembling top 20 talent. So yes, I feel he's a good fighter, probably fringe top 10, but overrated by most people. But that's my opinion.
    Ok, i'll agree with this. I never had mousassi ranked super high, so when ever i hear people say he is overrated i just assume they are saying he is a complete scrub. I always held mousassi as a person who is a very tough opponent with the potential of top 10 if he could pull it together. I had him kinda mixed in there like a nate marquart at mw, but at lhw i think his stock goes down a lot (it is a stacked division)
  • 01-10-2013, 05:49 AM
    dbader08
    Quote Originally Posted by KevoOnTheRadio View Post
    And then he lays eggs against Jardine and King Mo.
    He beat the living shit out of both of those guys lol not to mention Mo is a very big LHW and we are talking about him at MW.

    ^I think Gegard takes Thiago and could take Goose....though Goose would be tough with the size factor, which is why Gegard should go to MW.

    Also, OSP may not be top 20, because he hasn't really foughten anyone to be considered that high...but you can't deny that he's talented and big for the division he's in. He's still got holes in his stand up but his grappling is pretty solid...a solid win imo.
  • 01-10-2013, 05:07 AM
    roaddawg
    He could probably beat Forest but Goose would eat him alive. The old Thiago Silva would make short work of him imo.
  • 01-10-2013, 04:07 AM
    Fedorlei Gomipierre
    Quote Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement View Post
    He beat a severely out of shape Mark Hunt who could of cared less about MMA at that moment. He beat Lombard when Lombard was 8 fights in to his career. His wins against Babalu and Jacare are legit and also YEARS ago. Since beating Babalu, here's his who's who of fighting:

    Sokujdou - the fact you list him as a legit win is mind numbing.
    Gary Goodridge - Really?
    King Mo - WHO HE LOST TO
    Jake O' Brien - that killer!
    Mizuno - LOL
    Jardine - A draw against Glassy Jaw'd Joe himself
    Izumi - Alright win but in only his 5 fight
    OSP - Not even top 20
    I'll preface all of this, by saying that I'm one of Mousasi's biggest fans on this forum, he's up there with Glover, Jacare, Werdum, Jim Miller, Belcher, Eddie, GSP, Fedor, Wandy & JDS, as one of my highest faves, who I'll be "on their nuts" etc.

    As such, I think both Mizuno and Izumi are two really good wins and he absolutely won the Jardine fight, which was poorly ref'd. Let's also not forget that Jake O'Brien's other 3 losses being to Bones, Cain and Arlovski, not bad company, and Soko, when he wants to, can be a sincere threat, I thought he looked very good in the Jimmo fight recently for example and has a solid skillset... I also like OSP, while he's not a legit top 20, I think he was a huge sleeper for Gegard.

    All that said, I'm not a huge fan of Mousasi's work these past few years, and feel he's been mismanaged and poorly handled, however I believe that he can thoroughly do better than he has looked as of late, however has all of the tools to become a world champion(IMO that is) and I believe it is truly a case of Mousasi getting his ducks in a row, which I think a consistent and healthy run in the UFC would provide.

    I genuinely consider Mousasi to be a helluva talent above the likes of current LHWs such as say, a Goose, T.Silva, or Forrest & Shogun(at this juncture) and think that the real harbinger of progress in Mousasi's career will be his TDD. I'd love to see him get a Bader or Davis, if he can stop their takedowns, I believe he can be a genuine LHW contender, and would quelch alot of questions about his talent.

    End game, I genuinely understand and appreciate the questions and issues people have with Mousasi and why they don't consider him to be a legit LHW. I personally would prefer him to fight at MW if he could, but I'm 100% on board with him. I've seen too much technique and talent on almost all fronts to state otherwise at this moment.
  • 01-10-2013, 03:42 AM
    Sniggles
    Mousasi needs to consistently face higher ranked competition.
  • 01-10-2013, 02:48 AM
    roaddawg
    Quote Originally Posted by optimusjoel View Post
    Yeah that fight was horrendous. King Mo took a beating laying on top of him for 5 rounds. Mo's face was busted up bad.
    Was King Mo even trying to defend the shots or was he trying not to give up position? If I remember correctly those were shots freely given.
  • 01-10-2013, 02:18 AM
    KevoOnTheRadio
    Quote Originally Posted by initial_zen View Post
    If i recall correctly, the ref pretty much gave jardine the tie.. as he lost every single round. I mean jesus man, look at this fight metric
    FightMetric: Mousasi vs. Jardine Official FightMetric Report

    As for the mo fight, mo got his ass kicked. But with completely horrible judging, i can see how mo won.
    I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, I'm saying he hasn't shown me anything to say he can swim with the sharks at LHW. Bones, Evans, Goose, Shogun, Machida, Glover all beat him. He has no wins at LHW over anything but second tier fighters, and he's gone 0-1-1 against anything resembling top 20 talent. So yes, I feel he's a good fighter, probably fringe top 10, but overrated by most people. But that's my opinion.
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