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[Dork8503]

Originally Posted by jukon

Hughes by spinning back fist.

i would be willing to bet he tries it just to be a asshole

[CEVANS]

Originally Posted by jukon

Hughes by spinning back fist.

that would be some funny shit

i don;t like both of them,i think it will be a boring ass fight.both on the gound not doing a whole hell of alot could be hughs could be serra but i'll bet its boring

[leelandk]

Originally Posted by Palma

Are you sure about that? Serra is 20X the grappler Hughes is. I agree that Serra has no physical advantage, but Hughes isn't as strong and powerful as he used to be either.

It comes down to this for me. They both have great cardio and strength, but Serra has more tools to finish the fight. I doubt he will KO Hughes, but Hughes is probably the worst WW striker in the UFC and Serra can box enough to set up a takedown (like he did agaiinst Penn) and he can certainly sub Hughes from their or hold top position and control the fight.

I think Serra should win this. The only thing he doesn't have in his favor is the past and his size.

20 X the grappler Hughes is? Wonder why Lytle made him look so ordinary then. Either way, we'll find out come fight time. I've never been to high up on Serra's ground game. His takedowns are horrible.

I know he's damned good on the ground, but who is the last fighter he has subbed? Its gotta be at least 4 or 5 years since he won a fight with a submission. And I know he hasn't subbed anyone in MMA on Hughes level. I just can't see him winning this fight unless he catches Hughes like he did GSP.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by leelandk

20 X the grappler Hughes is? Wonder why Lytle made him look so ordinary then. Either way, we'll find out come fight time. I've never been to high up on Serra's ground game. His takedowns are horrible.

I know he's damned good on the ground, but who is the last fighter he has subbed? Its gotta be at least 4 or 5 years since he won a fight with a submission. And I know he hasn't subbed anyone in MMA on Hughes level. I just can't see him winning this fight unless he catches Hughes like he did GSP.

Because that is what Lytle does and he isn't on Serra's level but he is a really good black belt.

I was just responding to what you said about Serra not being able to get out from underneith Hughes.

I'm not predicting a sub, but Serra does have that capablity. It all depends on his gameplan. As I said before, he has more tools then Hughes with his stand up and his BJJ.

All Hughes ever did was take people down and pound on them until the fight was called or until a submission opened up for him. If you keep him standing his chances of winning are gone as well as keeping out of top control.

Serra can win standing, on top position, or off his back.

[Ben Hawkins]

If Hughes plays it smart he will wait until Serra gasses in the 2nd or 3rd round and dominated him ala Parisyan.

[leelandk]

Originally Posted by Palma

Because that is what Lytle does and he isn't on Serra's level but he is a really good black belt.

I was just responding to what you said about Serra not being able to get out from underneith Hughes.

I'm not predicting a sub, but Serra does have that capablity. It all depends on his gameplan. As I said before, he has more tools then Hughes with his stand up and his BJJ.

All Hughes ever did was take people down and pound on them until the fight was called or until a submission opened up for him. If you keep him standing his chances of winning are gone as well as keeping out of top control.

Serra can win standing, on top position, or off his back.

Agreed on most of that. But I still don't think he can get out from under Hughes. He might, might get a reveral in the first if Hughes takes him down, but I think Hughes is gonna tire him out fast. Hughes animal strength wears most guys down. But I could be wrong.

[2mcgrath]

i strongly disagree that serra will beat hughes.hughes has beaten much better fighters than serra.i see hughes getting in some big slams and the fight getting stopped due to g'n'p.hughes the winner.ill go with 2nd rd.im not sure serra has been in the cage with anyone as strong as hughes is.so hughes imo, will pretty much over power serra.and pretty much do what he wants to do with him

[sandywh]

Serra wins! Here's why:
- you can't gas him out. never seen him truly gassed
- Hughes can only win with Serra on the ground, Serra wants to be there
- The last BJJ fighter Hughes fought worked him over (Penn)
- Hughes won't "outstrike" Serra
- Serra is not affraid of Hughes
- Hughes has already made post fight plans (who's next, what division)
- Judges are getting better at not awarding fights to guys that just lay n pray

I just don't see Hughes having a clear advantage in any area in this fight. Hughes has an edge in straight wrestling, but sometimes that plays into the hands of a guy like Serra.

[Palma]

Originally Posted by 2mcgrath

i strongly disagree that serra will beat hughes.hughes has beaten much better fighters than serra.i see hughes getting in some big slams and the fight getting stopped due to g'n'p.hughes the winner.ill go with 2nd rd.im not sure serra has been in the cage with anyone as strong as hughes is.so hughes imo, will pretty much over power serra.and pretty much do what he wants to do with him

Uh, Hughes beat Penn, GSP, and 39 mid to low teir fighters with a few noteworthy name. And most recently he got the living shit kicked out of him by GSP, not to mention a 2 round beating he took from Penn before he finally pulled that out.

Serra lost as close of a decision as you can have to Penn and remember this?

(lol, that never gets old)

Matt Serra's BJJ accomplishments outweigh allot of things Hughes has done in MMA. Overall, Matt Hughes has a better career but you can't go by that considering Serra has concentrated on another sport as much as MMA.

[rivethead]

This fight is as big of a win win as Joe Silva has ever offered me.

I really dislike both fighters, so I just want them to go in there and beat the crap out of each other. and it will mean this season of the reality show is over, so maybe I'll be able to watch the next one with the sound on.

I think Serra has more tools to win, but is a tremendous tool himself. I think his fanboys will be insufferable if he wins, so I'll probably avoid the forum if he does. Hughes has bothered me so long, I'm used to it by now, so it shouldn't be a big deal. I give a slight edge to Serra in the fight. Like 2%.

rh