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[pa99fighter]

can you show us the video so we can see how bad it is?

[Clint]

Originally Posted by SumsNews

I don't want to pay for a trainer or any type of training. And I was friends with him previously so it's all good.

2 notes:
1) Your friend does not have to press charges, should he be hurt his family or the state itself can press charges without him

2) If you don't want to pay for a trainer then you are gonna get hurt in an MMA match anyways. Join a gym.

[SumsNews]

grapplerguy21
[can you show us the video so we can see how bad it is?]
-How bad it is? I broke his nose and shifted his face to the other side, causing the other cheek bone to crack and he has to have surgery to fix it. This is with one punch, and I'll reiterate that I'm not boasting but you don't have to criticize if because you didn't see it. And you may want to read my post again because I stated that we went out of camera focus, I was actually planning on posting it.

I don't need a trainer, a trainer would be great imo, but I'm in my first year of college and don't have the money for a trainer or a gym atm. So sparring is the only thing I can really do that gets me active. I wrestled for a while and I'm technical with a handful of submissions and chokes. All I do now is train and spar with people I know to work on submissions and striking. I do cardio as well, and I don't see what you mean by getting hurt if I don't have a trainer Clint.. Palma, I realize that and I never inferred that it would count as an actually mark on my mma record. ufobydeath, I'm not playing with mma. I don't see why people think I'm some punk kid running around mimicking what I see on Spike Tv. or something..

I started this topic because after hurting him I realized that it was possible to get sued and was looking for alternatives. I live in the Cincinnati, OH region if anyone wants to suggest an inexpensive gym, I think a few people are from Southern Ohio here.

[blackfox]

lol at this thread. dude you want experice fucking join a gym, train your ass off get in the cage get your ass kicked or kick ass thats the only way to do it. punching your buddies face in isent training. Fuckin goofball. This is why people think fighters are kunckle dragging muscle masses. fuckin wise up people.
EDIT: no one has the money to do this shit, we just work harder to make the money to do it, like I do. I'm in college too. Why do all the tards in my state come from cinci. google is your friend. look one up. hell grab a phone book start making calls ask if they offer BJJ, kickboxing, Muya thai, judo, boxing ect. you don't need an octagon to train in to be a fighter, just a good instructor.

[ufobydeath]

Originally Posted by SumsNews

ufobydeath, I'm not playing with mma. I don't see why people think I'm some punk kid running around mimicking what I see on Spike Tv. or something..

Ok, well since you can't see it then I will explain it to you: MMA as it is now is still seen by many as "human cockfighting" and I've gotten more than one weird look from people when I tell them what I'm training. The image most people seem to have of MMA fighters isn't one of a proffessional athlete but rather one of a violent thug who revels in violence and brutality. This is an image MMA fighters and organisations have worked hard to get rid of.
So when you show up here and ask or help after bashing your buddy's face in in what is essentially a street brawl in a public area, later dissmissing it as an "amateur match" and arrogantly refusing the advice to join a gym/get a trainer you truly seem like a punk. Now I may be misunderstanding this, and I can appreciate that you lack the funds to get proper training so I suggest that you either try to work it out with the teacher of a local gym or not train at all. That's the honest truth here.

[SumsNews]

Tard? lol *sigh*. I use google more than you do, it's not like I haven't searched for any gym, I've used yellowpages.com as well, just looking for personal suggestions of people that have been or are associated with a gym in or around Cincinnati. That's the only reason why I added where I live around. And your stereotypical statement about people in Cincinnati is somewhat pathetic. Rich Franklin is from Cincinnati, what mma athlete has your city/town brought up?? I'm not trying to start an argument, but it's people like you why most forums just criticize people all the time and even shut down, it's terrible and fucking sad. And I've never heard any negative feedback from people criticizing mma personally, only from people that admire boxing and are biased about their sport.

(i.e.) http://youtube.com/watch?v=7jJgg3XHLhs
(Joe Rogan on Boxing vs. MMA)

And I wouldn't want to join a gym that isn't mma, except for BJJ which imo would be the best style to train in that isn't as versatile as mma. And just as much as you don't need an octagon and just a good trainer to be a fighter, I can do it by myself and still excel. I participate and was very proficient in like 4 sports, I'm pretty sure I'm an athlete and not some thug, if that's what you were implying. Like many wrestlers, mma is a new avenue for me to continue my talents, but w/e. Anymore comments are appreciated, please keep the negative feedback/criticism to yourself though, thanks.

[Noob]

Originally Posted by SumsNews

-How bad it is? I broke his nose and shifted his face to the other side, causing the other cheek bone to crack and he has to have surgery to fix it. This is with one punch, and I'll reiterate that I'm not boasting

Sure sounds like you're boasting.

Originally Posted by SumsNews

I don't need a trainer, a trainer would be great imo, but I'm in my first year of college and don't have the money for a trainer or a gym atm.

In my experience, money is like time. There are a lot of people that say they don't have it, and a small minority for whom this is really true. For the rest, they find time (or $) to do what is important.


There are a lot of people in college that train in a martial art. If you have the money to buy gloves and a videocamera, or a retainer for a lawyer to fight civil and criminal suits, then you have enough to train for a month or more.

Originally Posted by SumsNews

I don't see why people think I'm some punk kid running around mimicking what I see on Spike Tv. or something..

Because this sounds very much like something that a punk kid with friends and a video camera would do while trying to imitate a TUF marathon on church property.

Originally Posted by SumsNews

I live in the Cincinnati, OH region if anyone wants to suggest an inexpensive gym, I think a few people are from Southern Ohio here.

Lol. I will leave it at this: Like the money situation, if you were really interested in training you would put in the time and energy to find a school.


Maybe you just want to kick around with your buddies in the backyard, and that's fine. Nothing wrong with it, but it is what it is. If that's all you're interested in, you don't have to play the part of the ambitious young TUFer who just can't seem to find the time and money to join a gym.


Whatever you decide to do, good luck.

Originally Posted by SumsNews

I'm not trying to start an argument, but it's people like you why most forums just criticize people all the time and even shut down, it's terrible and fucking sad. And I've never heard any negative feedback from people criticizing mma personally, only from people that admire boxing and are biased about their sport.

You are on a forum. You are posting on a public website, and are therefore making yourself available for public scrutiny. It's just the way it works.


And claiming that the only people who have a wayward word about your backyard antics are anti-MMA is silly. Even posting Joe Rogan videos isn't going to make you sound less defensive.

Originally Posted by SumsNews

And I wouldn't want to join a gym that isn't mma, except for BJJ which imo would be the best style to train in that isn't as versatile as mma. And just as much as you don't need an octagon and just a good trainer to be a fighter, I can do it by myself and still excel. I participate and was very proficient in like 4 sports, I'm pretty sure I'm an athlete and not some thug, if that's what you were implying. Like many wrestlers, mma is a new avenue for me to continue my talents, but w/e. Anymore comments are appreciated, please keep the negative feedback/criticism to yourself though, thanks.

4 sports you say? Excuse me while I step out and phone Deon Sanders. He will want to hear about this. Have you contacted your local news outlets? Perhaps put together a press release?



I am going to recommend these sites. I think they may be more your speed:


http://www.theultimatefighter.tv/forum/forum.php
http://www.sherdog.net/forums/



I'll be rooting for you when you're UFC champ. Godspeed.

[Palma]

This is exactly why I didn't want Kimbo fighting MMA. Now everyone thinks they can circumvent years of training by beating up poeple in their backyards and capturing it on video...

I think even your idea about training is wacko... You don't want to train anything besides MMA? Are you crazy? The best MMA fighters specialized in one sport for years before taking on all facets of fighting.

Cung Le's guys are notrious for this. They can do everything well enough to fight competetively, but when the face someone who has great BJJ or striking they fold, because MMA will only teach you so much about kickboxing, wrestling, Bjj, or any paticular aspect of fighting.

I must say, I laugh at people who take up MMA who have never practiced any other combat sport. It's a fad at its finest.

[Noob]

Originally Posted by Palma

This is exactly why I didn't want Kimbo fighting MMA. Now everyone thinks they can circumvent years of training by beating up poeple in their backyards and capturing it on video...

It's the Kimbo sydrome.

Originally Posted by Palma

I think even your idea about training is wacko... You don't want to train anything besides MMA? Are you crazy? The best MMA fighters specialized in one sport for years before taking on all facets of fighting.

I must say, I laugh at people who take up MMA who have never practiced any other combat sport. It's a fad at its finest.

Amen.


It's something about combat sports. For example, you don't see guys dorking around in their backyards with three friends and a deflated basketball boasting about how they are going to excel. Or asking if they can be sued if their crossover breaks a friend's ankle.


And they certainly aren't thinking about sharing their videos on the NBA forums asking for advise or applause.


There is something in combatitive sports that brings out the delusional inner warrior in people. Brings out their inner Andy Wang, if you will. Except even Andy Wang has a black belt. These guys come into the gym from time to time. They don't usually last very long, and seem truly troubled by the apparent gap between their perceived abilities, and their realistic ability.



{sigh}. We are in the TUF generation.

[blackfox]

lets see I live in canton, home of the pro fucking football hall of fame. My city has done a lot for pro athletes. oh and the gym I train at taught Butterbean most of what he knows about BJJ. I'd say I got my bases pretty well covered there buddy.

So It's not even in your best intrest to start a pissing match with me.

And Cinci and the surrounding aera is full of fucking idiots. I've been there seen it and got the t-shirt. You're more evidence and If Rich franklin read this I'm sure he'd be disgusted.

Bottom line as all the vets here have said join a gym stop being a dumbass and come back when you have something constructive to add.

And just an FYI "natural athletes" are always the ones who get their asses kicked fastest.


lol at Dion Sanders comment.