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Old 11-29-2007, 09:11 PM   #41 (permalink)
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But hughes was knocked out in the first....BJM was stopping the fight when the bell rang, and let it go into round 2.

I believe others share this opinion too.

Kos vs GSP, gsp out wrestled the best wrestler in the WW division in the UFC, hughes laid on lytle for 3 rounds.

GSP by tko round 2.
That is exactly the point I was making. GSP was way more dominant over Kos than Hughes was over Lytle. I dont see how Hughes can win the fight. GSP out wrestled the best wrestler in the WW division and I think we all know what will happen if Hughes tries to stand and trade with GSP again. Ive said it before and Ill say it again, I think this fight will end the same as the last one.
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Lol lets see

Matt Hughes wins 3 rounds vs Lytle

GSP wins 2 vs Kos

neither had dominating performances, yet were arguing about who had the more dominating performance?
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sorry...I had to change the tone a bit. This thread is getting stale.
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He put GSP in the hospital, and had to break a rib to lose to Hughes. He's the fucking King.
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Ok, I have some things to say on this subject since I became a fan while Matt Hughes was dominating and GSP was a noob. First off, let me begin by saying I have always thought GSP was better than Matt simply because of his hybrid fighting background. Matt, was great and could still win some key match ups, but this is not one of them. I see lots of you like to hear concrete examples so let's go... I think it is best to start with the fighters they have both faced. Sean Sherk - It took Matt all 5 rounds to pound out a decision. It took St. Pierre a couple of rounds to stop him. BJ Penn - Matt got whooped the first time and disgraced himself (I love watching the highlight of him looking like a deer caught in the headlights right after the referee stopped it. And then BJ kissed him!!! Classic!!) Then in their second encounter, Penn owned Matt until he suffered that separated rib injury. GSP on the other hand only lost the first round to Penn and then (all bloodied up) turned it up the last 2 rounds to pull out a well deserved decision (showing a champion's heart imo). Moving on to Trigg. Personally I don't think that highly of Trigg as a fighter since he lost the same way to both guys 3 times!! However, Frank Trigg did state after his fight with GSP that "GSP was the BEST fighter he has ever faced" and if you have seen that bout, it is the epitome of total ownership you know kinda like the last match between the two guys this post is dedicated to (all one sided for GSP). Even in their first bout, GSP was serving Hughes up before Matt hit that great armbar.

Let's move on to their strengths... So Hughes is supposed to be this great wrestler who can ground and pound anyone. Well, let's see him get GSP down first because he couldn't last time! I mean GSP even looked like a wrestling stud against Koscheck who is widely regarded as the best wrestler the UFC has ever seen.

You know after I typed all of this, I am thinking what the hell is the guy who started this thread smoking?? And more importantly is it for sale?? Anyway, I truly believe in what I am saying and I think Dec. 29 will be the same as last year. I just hope and pray that GSP doesn't look past Hughes like he did with Serra because that is the only kink in his game.
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Ok, I have some things to say on this subject since I became a fan while Matt Hughes was dominating and GSP was a noob. First off, let me begin by saying I have always thought GSP was better than Matt simply because of his hybrid fighting background. Matt, was great and could still win some key match ups, but this is not one of them. I see lots of you like to hear concrete examples so let's go... I think it is best to start with the fighters they have both faced. Sean Sherk - It took Matt all 5 rounds to pound out a decision. It took St. Pierre a couple of rounds to stop him. BJ Penn - Matt got whooped the first time and disgraced himself (I love watching the highlight of him looking like a deer caught in the headlights right after the referee stopped it. And then BJ kissed him!!! Classic!!) Then in their second encounter, Penn owned Matt until he suffered that separated rib injury. GSP on the other hand only lost the first round to Penn and then (all bloodied up) turned it up the last 2 rounds to pull out a well deserved decision (showing a champion's heart imo). Moving on to Trigg. Personally I don't think that highly of Trigg as a fighter since he lost the same way to both guys 3 times!! However, Frank Trigg did state after his fight with GSP that "GSP was the BEST fighter he has ever faced" and if you have seen that bout, it is the epitome of total ownership you know kinda like the last match between the two guys this post is dedicated to (all one sided for GSP). Even in their first bout, GSP was serving Hughes up before Matt hit that great armbar.

Let's move on to their strengths... So Hughes is supposed to be this great wrestler who can ground and pound anyone. Well, let's see him get GSP down first because he couldn't last time! I mean GSP even looked like a wrestling stud against Koscheck who is widely regarded as the best wrestler the UFC has ever seen.

You know after I typed all of this, I am thinking what the hell is the guy who started this thread smoking?? And more importantly is it for sale?? Anyway, I truly believe in what I am saying and I think Dec. 29 will be the same as last year. I just hope and pray that GSP doesn't look past Hughes like he did with Serra because that is the only kink in his game.
I'm a Hughes fan and I have to say I am afraid for Matt. I think GSP is going to hit that ring like death with gloves. I think his focus will be right where it needs to be....making a statement that perhaps Serra's win was a fluke.
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Well staying in shape is nothing, he wasnt training for Matt Hughes the whole time.. he has less then a month to do that.. still not a whole lot of time, im not making excuses.. im picking Matt Hughes because Matt Hughes stylistically will be more prepared.
I'm staying out of this argument for many reasons but I do have to ask.... Who exactly do you think he was training for? Blake Bowman? I'm pretty sure he had a good idea who he would be facing in his next fight....
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To everyone with bad long term memory or anyone who hasn't seen a lot of Hughes' fights. Matt is better than Georges.

I am a fan of both fighters, and I rely on evidence for facts not opinions. So I feel it necessary to point this out to all the people caught up in being Hughes haters or GSP "nut hugers". Hughes is the most dominant UFC champion. And while Georges sometimes looks to display the ability to possibly rival Matt's legacy, he needs to do a hell of a lot more if he wants to fill those shoes.
hughes was the most dominant welterweight in ufc history...yes. BUT the ufc did NOT have the talent pool thay have now. hughes was built up by dana and the ufc. his nine defenses were against who? the most notable win..BJ..and that was because of a prayer that was answered! (straight from hughes himself)

fact: GSP is the better fighter...period.
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hughes is soo much better than gsp, ufc 79 proved that.
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