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[Mungo]

Originally Posted by strife

See now, this is interesting and something I was talking to my good friend about who is also very knowledgeable about MMA. You say those fighters are douche bags (keep in mind I'm not defending them for getting caught) but if you probably want the honest truth, there are tons of fighters who are juicing...I guarantee it but they just don't get caught. There are ways around the tests and there are tons of fighters that exploit it I bet. The pressure to compete at that level is so high that they are almost forced to in some cases.

We were talking and he was telling me he was talking to one of his clients (he's a personal trainer) who is a natural bodybuilder and his client was explaining how it was about time to cycle off the roids before competition. I'm not saying this is going to be completely true in MMA, but honestly I'd keep an open mind about it.

You could also compare it to baseball, there are the few scapegoats that are called out and caught and thrown into trial or whatever when in actuality TONS of the players have used in their career I'd be willing to bet.

This is probably true I don't even want to imagine that some of my favorite fighters are juicing, even though some probably are but if I ever find out they are then they aren't my favorite anymore plain and simple. Isn't it easier to tell though who's been juicing judging by muscle mass? I know that's not exclusive but isn't it fairly easy to say BJ or Fedor aren't juicing?

[strife]

Originally Posted by Mungo

This is probably true I don't even want to imagine that some of my favorite fighters are juicing, even though some probably are but if I ever find out they are then they aren't my favorite anymore plain and simple. Isn't it easier to tell though who's been juicing judging by muscle mass? I know that's not exclusive but isn't it fairly easy to say BJ or Fedor aren't juicing?

Not necessarily. I just don't like to think about it even though it's probably true, it just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

[Paytheplayer]

Originally Posted by Mungo

This is probably true I don't even want to imagine that some of my favorite fighters are juicing, even though some probably are but if I ever find out they are then they aren't my favorite anymore plain and simple. Isn't it easier to tell though who's been juicing judging by muscle mass? I know that's not exclusive but isn't it fairly easy to say BJ or Fedor aren't juicing?

You would like to think so, but thats not necessarily the case. I didn't really think that Bonnar was a physical specimen. Or even half of the baseball players that they name dont seem to be giants, besides Conseco or Bonds' head. You can look at Sherk all day long and say "obviously" but meanwhile someone can look very similar to that and have never taken a roid in their lives.

It would most definately be a shame if some of my favourites were juicing it, I too wouldn't be a fan very much longer. I was wondering though, if some of their poster boys were caught, would the UFC be so public about it? For example, the Chucks, Franklins, Hughes' during their reigns as champs? Likely, but for some reason I dont see them coming public about that.

[Mungo]

Originally Posted by Paytheplayer

You would like to think so, but thats not necessarily the case. I didn't really think that Bonnar was a physical specimen. Or even half of the baseball players that they name dont seem to be giants, besides Conseco or Bonds' head. You can look at Sherk all day long and say "obviously" but meanwhile someone can look very similar to that and have never taken a roid in their lives.

It would most definately be a shame if some of my favourites were juicing it, I too wouldn't be a fan very much longer. I was wondering though, if some of their poster boys were caught, would the UFC be so public about it? For example, the Chucks, Franklins, Hughes' during their reigns as champs? Likely, but for some reason I dont see them coming public about that.

Maybe they should just legalize it instead of playin this bs testing and guessing game. That'd make it more fair right? Or are the health problems associated with it just not worth it?

[leelandk]

Yep. Mods and their power trips. Starting to get a little pathetic. But hey, thats my opinion.

[johnny]

so i know he is not actually a mma fighter, but he thinks he could beat the best, without even one fight, my vote goes to kurt angle. he is a douche bag.

[jasonIndiana]

Originally Posted by Mungo

Maybe they should just legalize it instead of playin this bs testing and guessing game. That'd make it more fair right? Or are the health problems associated with it just not worth it?

legalize roids?????? wow. i guess you have never heard of people that died from them or people going on roid rage. im not trying to bad mouth you but that was dumb.

[Mungo]

Originally Posted by jasonIndiana

legalize roids?????? wow. i guess you have never heard of people that died from them or people going on roid rage. im not trying to bad mouth you but that was dumb.

Yeah I haven't looked into roids too much never heard of anyone dying from them, that's why I asked.

[markzabin]

Karo, "do you know who I am? Do you know who I am?" He also talks about himself in the third person sometimes.

Frank Shamrock for picking his weak fights.

And Serra for having the most annoying mouth, well maybe Goldy too.

[sodium_nitrate]

whoever comes up with the idea to put the champions on tuf and hold up the title for 6-8 months.