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04-22-2008, 10:26 AM
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| cutting weight
how much weight, is too much weight, to cut.
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04-22-2008, 11:08 AM
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In my opinion, it's not how much is too much, it's more how much should you be allowed to cut. I feel like there should be regulations on how much weight you are allowed to cut within a week of the fight. If you have to cut more than 10-15 pounds to make weight for a fight, you should be in a heavier weight class. I know it's normal for some fighters to cut as much as 20 pounds but that's ridiculous. If you're a big guy, fight in your weight class. That's the purpose of weight classes, to make it even. Cutting 20 pounds for a weigh in and then gaining it all back when you rehydrate puts you alot heavier when you are fighting than what you actually weighed in at. What if you walk around at 185 but you have somoone 210 or more cutting down to 185. You make the weight but gain it all back before the actual fight. That person has a significant weight advantage and makes it uneven.
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04-22-2008, 11:08 AM
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Kinda all depends on body type/size etc... water content. (avg person is 60-75%) depending.
It's much easier for someone who is larger to cut more weight than someone who is smaller. Eg. A guy who is 240 can cut to 205-210 much easier than a guy who is 185 and wants to cut to 155(<--- nearly impossible, unless you have a high fat content). It all depends and basically it comes down to math.
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04-22-2008, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by thecoylewis In my opinion, it's not how much is too much, it's more how much should you be allowed to cut. I feel like there should be regulations on how much weight you are allowed to cut within a week of the fight. If you have to cut more than 10-15 pounds to make weight for a fight, you should be in a heavier weight class. I know it's normal for some fighters to cut as much as 20 pounds but that's ridiculous. If you're a big guy, fight in your weight class. That's the purpose of weight classes, to make it even. Cutting 20 pounds for a weigh in and then gaining it all back when you rehydrate puts you alot heavier when you are fighting than what you actually weighed in at. What if you walk around at 185 but you have somoone 210 or more cutting down to 185. You make the weight but gain it all back before the actual fight. That person has a significant weight advantage and makes it uneven. | word, man
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04-22-2008, 12:27 PM
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As long as they can make the weight, I could care less what weightclass a fighter chooses to fight in.
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04-22-2008, 06:26 PM
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This is why some people say that "wrestlers ruined it for everyone else."
People that cut 20+ pounds will be extremely disadvantaged due to dehydration. They might have a 20-pound weight advantage, but they'll get tooled when they can't keep their hands up anymore. It all works out in the end.
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04-23-2008, 10:40 AM
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If I lost more then 10 the day of weigh ins I will be screwed! I try to loss the weight over 5 days cutting a few mpounds a day. Then cutting around 4 pounds of water.
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04-23-2008, 02:55 PM
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To respond to the original question of how much is too much to cut, I would say 100lbs would be a little too much.
As for regulation of how much someone can cut for a fight I think that is a little silly, now I have never cut weight but I would think it wouldn’t be too hard to cut a few pounds down to make the hypothetical 15lb limit and then cut the rest of that 15lb over the next 6 days. So that is a mute point.
Also I think if someone can cut a very large amount of weight and then recover enough to be highly effective in a fight well then they should be able to do that. They are using a natural ability of theirs to the max. Some people are blessed with long arms and long legs, it’s not fair at all to the mesomorph that the ectomorph is the same weight but has a 5 inch reach advantage on him and no matter how hard he trains that just won’t change. Does that mean that reach differential should get regulated too? Like it or not genetics plays a role in combat sports, always has and it always will.
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04-23-2008, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Coll So that is a mute point. |
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04-24-2008, 02:39 PM
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that depends on what you normally are. Back in HS when i wrestled and did state tournaments in Judo I was virtually always at my fighting weight. last fall, after not really training for a few months i weighed about 210, i entered a tournament where i grappled at 200 and i felt very out of place since most of the guys were bigger than me and in a lot better shape. so, i went back down to first 180 and then 170 ( where I am now even though I still think I should go down more).
Now if a fighter is normally 194 then he should be fighting at 185, not at 170. cutting weight is not only disadvantageous during the fight but for the rest of your life if you do this constantly, for every fight and you're doing for more than 10-15 pounds.
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