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[sandywh]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

I also hate the 10 point must system and judging by rounds not the whole fight. Would much prefer something like:

.: Fightmetric.com :: Every Bit of Every Bout :.

So what do you want?

Should we take it back to the old days?

- Ref was only there to stop the fight in the event of unconscienceness or broken bone.
- No time limits
- 2 men enter 1 man leaves

Its this kind of thinking that has people still considering this a 'blood sport' or 'human cock fighting'.

You need to realize that you can't just post whatever you want and then back pedal once someone (seemingly more knowledgable) makes the point you overlooked or ignored.

Fight Metric is nice and all, but it means shit. What would Fight Metric say about the Pelligrino / Nate Diaz fight? Are you gonna argue that since Kurt dominated all but 15 sec. of that fight that he should be declared the winner?

I have the perfect site for you:
MMA Ranks

(the goal here is not to call you out, but rather to educate - you have your preferances, and that's great, but the science of the sport is so much better than the violence)

[Ubermensch]

Now you're assuming. I said it appeared that way. And saying he fights to the best of his ability is exactly what I disagree with. He clearly outclassed Tito even stuffing his TDs. I just wish he would have tried to engage in more striking even if all it did was mark him up.

You saying appeared is a personal bias it appeared "TO YOU" does not mean it appeared like that to everyone else.

Also how is his best ability not Karate?? It is a well known fact you can disagree with it all you want (you should be neg'd for that but I will refrain) but that is what he has trained in most and what he will even say is his strong suit. Karate is not an engage whenever sport. If you watch the fight again he times his strikes extremely well and makes great contact his percentage of hit ratio has to be amazing just look at Tito's face after the fight. Just because you rboy lost and it wasn't a slug fest doesn't mean that it wasn't a great display of martial arts... That is what this sport is called Mixed "Martial Arts" if you want to see brawling go be a boxing fan. Even K1 has people who are elusive Hoost ring a bell.

[Steel]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

All the fuss over Machida's style has me wondering something. What's more important to the fans - trying to finish or avoiding damage?

I'd like to make this a poll but I don't know how.

What is more important to you as a fan?

This isn't a poll....it's pretty much a one sided question.

Karate students are trained to strike when the opportunity presents itself in an offensive situation and to avoid unnecessary conflict aka shots in the process of trying to win in an altercation.

Rule 1. Don't be there.

Rule 2. If you have to be there, win.

[mulefloyd]

Hmm. Interesting that there are so many comments from non-noobs in here.
ubermensch, you appear to be (and obviously if I say appear it means appears to me as I have no idea what others see that's why we discuss) an ignorant (based on your lack of knowledge that he's one of if not my least favorite fighter for being so 1-dimensional), argumentative (I never said karate wasn't Machida's best ability, I only ASKED didn't he also have a BB in JJ. So I wasn't arguing that point and absolutely do not care whether you or anyone else "negs" me. You're hilarious.

You veterans in here are bad representatives of long-time fans. Instead of engaging in educational conversations, you tend to put down or try to make fun of noobs.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

You veterans in here are bad representatives of long-time fans. Instead of engaging in educational conversations, you tend to put down or try to make fun of noobs.

I guess it's a good thing I'm not a veteran then.

rh

[Problematique]

Originally Posted by sandywh

Didn't Wand / Chuck go to decision?

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That was also a war and a very entertaining fight.
None of Machida's fights [to me] are entertaining.

[mulefloyd]

You only got me by a month but you must be a LOT faster typer based on your post count.

Do you have a bias against the UFC or does it just appear that way to me?

[Ubermensch]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

Hmm. Interesting that there are so many comments from non-noobs in here.
ubermensch, you appear to be (and obviously if I say appear it means appears to me as I have no idea what others see that's why we discuss) an ignorant (based on your lack of knowledge that he's one of if not my least favorite fighter for being so 1-dimensional), argumentative (I never said karate wasn't Machida's best ability, I only ASKED didn't he also have a BB in JJ. So I wasn't arguing that point and absolutely do not care whether you or anyone else "negs" me. You're hilarious.

You veterans in here are bad representatives of long-time fans. Instead of engaging in educational conversations, you tend to put down or try to make fun of noobs.

Now I have Neg'd you because you asked me too (I have been holding back because I am not a dick but you really deserve it) . And to be honest you are the one looking like an Idiot right now. Most of the people know enough about me and my history so you are coming off really as being stupid and even more ignorant than you had been right now.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

You only got me by a month but you must be a LOT faster typer based on your post count.

Do you have a bias against the UFC or does it just appear that way to me?

I don't think I have a bias against the UFC...I think they've done a lot for the sport, but I think they can do things better. Some of my favorite fighters are in the UFC [Swick, obviously] and I want them to be successful wherever they fight. But I don't see the world through UFC-only goggles either, and I like the variety that other venues offer.

I'm not sure why the bias appears to you, but I'd bet it appears to others as well...and everyone is welcome to their opinion.

rh

[sandywh]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

You veterans in here are bad representatives of long-time fans. Instead of engaging in educational conversations, you tend to put down or try to make fun of noobs.

Well of course we're making fun of noobs. It happened to all of us as well. There is an education processed involved. This is not another site (Iwon't name names, Sherd**) where the inmates run the assylum and the intellegent posters are overwhelmed by the idiots. Some of us, I am one of them, bust people's nuts. Its not neccassarily personal, but the less ignorant posting or silly comments we allow to go unchallenged then better off we all are. Too many times people have come in here and thought that they could just say whatever they want and get no reprisal from it. Not here, not at MMA News. Yeah we've grown and we can't squash all the bugs, but damnit we try. Stay here long enough, post enough, and post smart enough and you'll be respected. If you constantly post things like:
-BJJ sucks, gimme KO's
-UFC has best fighters in every weight
-I don't like fighter X cause he's a homo
-Jake Shields is not top 10
-GSP could beat Fedor
you're gonna get beat up daily. Noone's telling you to change your opinion, or asking you to conform. Education is the most important part of why we (me) bust people's nuts and piss them off.

Noobs:
Just know that we are watching, and we're waiting.