MMA News Forums » MMA Forums » Noob Jack City

[mulefloyd]

All the fuss over Machida's style has me wondering something. What's more important to the fans - trying to finish or avoiding damage?

I'd like to make this a poll but I don't know how.

What is more important to you as a fan?

[Ubermensch]

This poll sucks ass and is obviously sided just because of the wording...

[sandywh]

Originally Posted by Ubermensch

This poll sucks ass and is obviously sided just because of the wording...

This poll does not suck! C'mon.
As a fan of MMA I don't want to see any fighter make it past the first round.

Chin up, Hands down, and throw nothing but power shots and head kicks.

Who in their right mind wants to watch a bunch of dudes rolling around on the mat attempting to gain positions?

Seriously the most overrated things in MMA are:
gaurd passing, sweeps, butterfly gaurd, rubber gaurd, positioning, body locks, arm locks, leg locks.


since this in Noob Jack City, please know that this was sarcasm.

[mulefloyd]

Ok apparently my intent was not as clear as I thought it was. I hate decisions. I want to see a fighter trying to finish a fight. That was the original intent. And no I don't want a Tank bloodbath. I want skilled aggression. Think Wanderlei or Thiago Silva, Spencer Fisher, BJ, Nog, Aoki, either Diaz or anybody else who is willing to risk getting hit, taken down, etc. in order to attempt a finishing move. The second option was referring to Machida, Swick, Sherk, and others who fight for decisions or not to lose.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by mulefloyd

Ok apparently my intent was not as clear as I thought it was. I hate decisions. I want to see a fighter trying to finish a fight. That was the original intent. And no I don't want a Tank bloodbath. I want skilled aggression. Think Wanderlei or Thiago Silva, Spencer Fisher, BJ, Nog, Aoki, either Diaz or anybody else who is willing to risk getting hit, taken down, etc. in order to attempt a finishing move. The second option was referring to Machida, Swick, Sherk, and others who fight for decisions or not to lose.

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt until you included Machida and Swick with Sherk.

When Burkman fought Swick and Tito fought Machida, it wasn't a matter of skilled aggression, it was a matter of unskilled aggression. They couldn't do anything, and they deserved to lose.

MMA isn't judged on aggression, it's judged on effective aggression. That's a huge difference from Burkman trying his 24th takedown after his first 23 got stuffed. It's also judged on Octagon control, and both Swick and Machida controled the octagon in their fights, clearly and convincingly.

And even if you dislike Machida's style and/or can't understand it; have you seen any of Swick's fights besides Burkman?

To answer your poll, I'd rather see a technical fight all day over someone lunging around aggressively making the same mistake over and over.

And I now agree with Uber and Sandy that this was a stupid poll.

rh

[Dr. MMA]

alright mulefloyd, it seems like this thread is going to get ripped apart, so in the mean time think of a way that you could've made your poll or your poll options a little better.

Suggest it and if it seems like a good poll, I'm sure the mods would change it.

[Killinginthenameof]

i just wanna see folks touch chins and get KTFO....is that too much to ask?

although starnes didn't come off good by avoiding damage, i can't blame his financial stance on it.

[POINDEXTER]

Originally Posted by sandywh

This poll does not suck! C'mon.
As a fan of MMA I don't want to see any fighter make it past the first round.

Me too, but those double KO's are so few and far between.

[mulefloyd]

Machida, Sherk, and Swick in the Loiseau and Burkman fights were content to win by "points". That sucks. And thank you Sundance, Wanderlei is exactly the type of fighter I prefer.

[Ubermensch]

You assume that Machida is trying to win by points where I would say he fights to his best ability. The problem is his best ability is Karate and he just so happens not to have a lot of power. The assumption that he doesn't want to KO somone is just that an assumption.

Look at it this way Machida has good BJJ but that isn't his best skill set. Tito has really great GNP and ok stand up. Why the Hell would anyone want to go to their game that they are not best at especially when that is your opponents strong point (being on the ground that is). it makes no sense just because you think that is how the game is being played doesn't mean that is what is going on in the fighters game plan. It's not like a Starns fight!