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03-27-2009, 11:13 PM
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| You know what really pisses me off? ... round 2
So I'm back for another installment of "You know what really pisses me off?". So this week what pisses me off are fighters that are either affiliated with and let go, or "former" UFC fighters that for some reason or another end up as main event fighters for other organizations. A good example of this could be Jason Guida, or maybe even a Jesse Taylor. Jason Guida couldn't even make weight and was a complete embarrassment to the sport and to his name, yet for some reason or another he ends up in a co main event against Bobby Lashley, after being a main event loser in Adrenaline.
I'm sorry but, in my opinion, this should almost be as bitched about as Brock Lesnar getting a title shot... Just because he was affiliated with the UFC for a few days, he was given that fight. If he hadn't of flunked his way out of TUF, he would of called and said "hey this is Jason Guida and I will fight for Shamrock", they would of laughed in his face.
So this week, and well every other week too, the thing that really pisses me off is UFC washouts turned super-fighter.
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03-27-2009, 11:21 PM
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LOL. All the other things going on out there, and THIS is what pisses you off?
What would you ecpect these small shows to do?
Pay $100,000 for a free agent to fight one fight?
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Not bring in fighters that people may have seen or heard of before in order to draw more fans out to these events?
I'd much rather you complain about how Japanese stars are mistreated by American promotions.
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03-28-2009, 12:40 AM
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Part of the reason why you see guys like that, from the UFC, go into the underground leagues and get put on the main card, if not the main event is because it's very easy to promote someone that's a former UFC fighter.
Like Jesse Taylor. People saw him with the ultimate fighter, UFC, etc. Wouldn't you take the advantage of getting a guy like that on your main card, getting you more exposure and everything that comes with it?
You know, Yeah, it disturbs me as well, but it's just part of the game, promoter buisness, and last, part of MMA.
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03-28-2009, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CJRockstar So I'm back for another installment of "You know what really pisses me off?". So this week what pisses me off are fighters that are either affiliated with and let go, or "former" UFC fighters that for some reason or another end up as main event fighters for other organizations. A good example of this could be Jason Guida, or maybe even a Jesse Taylor. Jason Guida couldn't even make weight and was a complete embarrassment to the sport and to his name, yet for some reason or another he ends up in a co main event against Bobby Lashley, after being a main event loser in Adrenaline.
I'm sorry but, in my opinion, this should almost be as bitched about as Brock Lesnar getting a title shot... Just because he was affiliated with the UFC for a few days, he was given that fight. If he hadn't of flunked his way out of TUF, he would of called and said "hey this is Jason Guida and I will fight for Shamrock", they would of laughed in his face.
So this week, and well every other week too, the thing that really pisses me off is UFC washouts turned super-fighter. | man nobody cares about your whining. thats just the way the sport goes rite now. the ufc are up top with no real competition. when another organization puts on twenty shows a year and pulls that stunt then bitch, but until then they are gonna do things like that to make the sport look good. lesnar wasn't worthy of a shitle tot either but he he got one because he beatdown hh and has a known name already. who can say he didnt deserve the title? he didnt deserve the shot, but he did beat the champ randy couture. so he deserves to be called champ id think. and guida was a replacement, and sometimes replacements are hard to find. you should write about something instead of bitching bout what pisses you off.
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03-28-2009, 07:25 AM
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this happens in boxing, wrestling, and pretty much every other sanctioned bloodsport. nothing's shocking anymore... it's just easier for them to capitalize off of jesse taylor and jason guida's unparalleled tooldom than to build lesser known, but more deserving fighters. while it does kinda suck, it fits in perfectly to the capitalistic competition between brands, and is totally understandable.
and hey, at the end of the day, it's pretty funny that i think kimbo slice is a much more deserving main-eventer.
you sort of touched on it... but it was the same idea as using Brock's popularity to promote his title shot. while it was a pretty bottom-shelf tactic, it paid ultimate dividends and could have arguably helped the sport a lot in terms of recognition.
just my two cents. i'm gonna go make some chocolate mousse now.
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03-28-2009, 10:02 AM
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You know what pisses me off? Oprah.
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03-28-2009, 10:06 AM
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It pisses me off too...
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03-28-2009, 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CJRockstar So I'm back for another installment of "You know what really pisses me off?". So this week what pisses me off are fighters that are either affiliated with and let go, or "former" UFC fighters that for some reason or another end up as main event fighters for other organizations. A good example of this could be Jason Guida, or maybe even a Jesse Taylor. Jason Guida couldn't even make weight and was a complete embarrassment to the sport and to his name, yet for some reason or another he ends up in a co main event against Bobby Lashley, after being a main event loser in Adrenaline.
I'm sorry but, in my opinion, this should almost be as bitched about as Brock Lesnar getting a title shot... Just because he was affiliated with the UFC for a few days, he was given that fight. If he hadn't of flunked his way out of TUF, he would of called and said "hey this is Jason Guida and I will fight for Shamrock", they would of laughed in his face.
So this week, and well every other week too, the thing that really pisses me off is UFC washouts turned super-fighter. | The majority of the time, that would anger me but in the case with Jason Guida we have to consider the fact that he was a last minute replacement for the fight, though I know you were just making a point. I do however like the fact that other organizations are willing to give fighters that might not have the best UFC record big fights that will make money soley based upon the fact that this increases negotiating power with fighters in the UFC because they have alternatives… If Jason Guida or Nick Diaz can do great outside of the UFC, imagine the negotiating power someone like Anthony Johnson could gain in his next sit-down.
I guess my point would be, even if some people we feel are undeserving are making money in another organization just for being affiliated with the UFC, it's still a good thing because it increases negotiating power for fighters in the UFC and they don't just have to take what Zuffa is willing to pay them.
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03-28-2009, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by U shut ur FACE The majority of the time, that would anger me but in the case with Jason Guida we have to consider the fact that he was a last minute replacement for the fight, though I know you were just making a point. I do however like the fact that other organizations are willing to give fighters that might not have the best UFC record big fights that will make money soley based upon the fact that this increases negotiating power with fighters in the UFC because they have alternatives… If Jason Guida or Nick Diaz can do great outside of the UFC, imagine the negotiating power someone like Anthony Johnson could gain in his next sit-down.
I guess my point would be, even if some people we feel are undeserving are making money in another organization just for being affiliated with the UFC, it's still a good thing because it increases negotiating power for fighters in the UFC and they don't just have to take what Zuffa is willing to pay them. | nice constructive criticism. I enjoy seeing other peoples sides to my critical biases. This is my whole reason for this social experiment. I want to see whats really on the 'hardcore' fans mind.
For those of you that are whining about my 'whining' as you call it, don't read the post. The reason it is called "You know what really pisses me off?" is because it is about me, and I don't live by your rules and regulations. So if you don't enjoy the post, or have constructive criticism, shut the fuck up and don't read the shit. Comprende?
Thanks again for another fun topic.
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03-28-2009, 03:08 PM
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I surely don't think that being the second to last fight on a small card for an unknown, first time mma organization qualifies you as a superfighter?
He was a replacement fighter at that. They had to take who they could get.
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