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Old 07-13-2009, 06:32 PM   #21 (permalink)
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^^^ I agree with most of your post except for the premature crowning of Machida as the complete cream of the crop in the LHW division. He has not cleaned the division out like GSP and Anderson have. He has a fight coming up with a very game Shogun (if properly training) he has yet to face Rampage hell I would even like to see him face Forest. Until he has faced those guys I will not say he has cleaned out his division.
I agree he hasn't cleaned out the division but he has made guys with good to great stand up games look absolutley silly. rashad barely landed a punch and rashads hands and head movement are towards the top of the lhw division. Machida waited a long time for his title shot and proved he should be mentioned in the top pound for pound fighters and very soon after a few more fights machida will be arguably the top p4p guy around he just looks that damn good right now. I may eat crow after the shogun fight cuz the lhw belt seems to be passing hands after each fight for it, with that said Machida has all the tools to keep it for quite a while when and if he gets past shogun.
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Old 07-13-2009, 07:09 PM   #22 (permalink)
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what a ridiculous title. the guy has 4 fights. Lets put it in perspective.
Ya I guess people just love jumping on bandwagons. He's been impressive, but he's basically beat a gatekeeper, an aging champ fighting 60 pounds over his optimal weight, and a guy who while being talented, is incredibly inconsistent and has poor wrestling.
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Brock is very beatable and the list of guys that can beat him is waaay longer than four.

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Mir... I'm not convinced Brock owns Frank
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oh for christ sakes people who the heck has lesnar fought? that Min kim dude who got ripped apart by Sapp and many others. Herring who got manhandled by other larger and or better fighters or how about a fighter thats near 50 years old? oh wait how about Mir who has been chasing the heavy weight title for years and to no aveil failed even against lesnar. There are many fighters out there who are good fighters capable of beating stronger heavier opponents like Gonzaga,Arvlowski, alek, barnett, fedor, crop cop, etc..... Sapp owned K1 legend Ernesto Hoost becuase of the size but got owned by a fighter like cro cop who got his ass kicked by hoost so many times i cant count becuase unlike Hoost cro cop can fight superior stronger opponents. fyi not every fighter can crush larger heavier opponents thats why theres weight classes becuase not all the fighters can do that. i can kick the holy hell out of someone 40 pounds heavier then me but get owned by a bloody kickboxer who knows sambo 30 pounds lighter then me and or the same lol.
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give lashley some time and he has a chance. I really think the one who has the best is Carwin.
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Fedors the guy who gets dropped on his head and still submits you. The guy who runs through you like you dont belong in the same match with him. I get what everyone is saying about Brock, the guys an animal. But Fedors very smart, calm, hell he defeats you with his mind. Its like the guys not human. Fedor is by far the favorite to beat Brock.
Brock is not going to pull off a move like that. He will restrict his opponents and beat them senseless until they either get KTFO or the ref stops it.

As good as Fedor is I think this is a very bad match up for him. A better fight for Fedor would be Couture or maybe even Mir (whose already made the challenge).

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Couture was supposed to beat Lesnar with his mind. Didn't work out too well.
Couture was also on a year layoff, in his 40's and doesnt have the reflexes anymore that someone like Fedor has.


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Brock is not going to pull off a move like that. He will restrict his opponents and beat them senseless until they either get KTFO or the ref stops it.

As good as Fedor is I think this is a very bad match up for him. A better fight for Fedor would be Couture or maybe even Mir (whose already made the challenge).

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i think nog wou;ld put up a great fight
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Cain because of his wrestling, but his chin is suspect.
Where did that come from? Cain looks to have a great chin. He's taken shots that would have put most people to sleep.

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