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I was kind bored and in a ranting mood so I wrote this. So yea, feel free to comment. If it belongs in noob jack, so be it. I wrote it in like 15 min so its probably pretty sloppy. But i think a lot of people will identify with some parts of it.....




There have been people posting on here since I started coming on here about their hate for Dana White and the UFC in general. They talk about how TUF is bad for the sport, Dana White is bad for the sport and so on. Out of all the interviews I've seen or blogs I've read, Dana White comes off as brash and the least politically correct person thats the president of a major sporting company or "franchise" as some people like to put it. But I ask you this, would you want some corperate accountant and pencil pushers running the UFC? Would you want someone with a less-than-ruthless business ethic trying to get the sport of MMA sanctioned all over the world? I certainly wouldn't.

Its painfully obvious that Dana White has the UFC's interests at the forefront. However, I would easily venture to say that the passion for MMA comes in a very very close second.I didnt see Tom Atencio making the case to get legislation pushed through in states like Hawaii, Indiana or Massachusetts so they would sanction MMA. Nor did I see Gary Shaw help the case when Elite XC was in business. To me, it seemed like Shaw and Atencio only got into the MMA promotion business to capitalize on the sport White and the Fertitta's resurrected and put in the mainstream spotlight. Sure, we got some good fights courtesy of Atencio and a few moments through Shaw but really, what did they do as far as building the sport? Shaw made a mockery of things by allegedly paying people to stay on their feet. Atencio's money would have been better spent sponsoring fighters.

Seems to me like the only people who are getting it right are Scott Coker and Dana White. These guys not only have a pretty sound business model, but they have genuine passion for the sport. I think that the best part of Affliction going under is Strikeforce will pick up some quality fighters and UFC will pick up some fighters to add to their rosters. With the right set of circumstances, Strikeforce could be pretty good competition for the UFC.



Onto another disturbing trend Ive been seeing lately. People on here saying "I hope so-and-so gets injured because I dont like them". Thats ridiculous and, to me, is as bad as fighter bashing. A lot of it has been focused on Lesnar. I mean how dare he come into the UFC and be good at fighting!? Right?! The amount of hypocrisy on the boards lately is just plain ridiculous. But it happens time and time again with different fighters. Lesnar just happens to be flavor of the month. Im sure after the Penn/Florian fight people will be bitching about Penn. If you took the GSP/Alves fight and the Lesnar/Mir fight and compared the critisms on this and other boards its night and day. GSP used superior wrestling and GnP to control Alves and so did Lesnar with Mir. Then you hear "Lesnar is too heavy for the HW division! omg!" Thats a ridiculous argument as well. Almost every fighter cuts weight, Lesnar does it for his division. But, because Lesnar is a super athletic freak, its not ok for him. The double standards have been staggering.


Then we have the Lesnar v Fedor debate going on. To some, Fedor is the end all be all of the MMA heavyweights. To others, Lesnar is the new hotness. But people coming on here going "Fedor wins and you are a dumbass for thinking otherwise" is getting a bit out of hand too. The other double standard that goes on is "Brock does it only for the money" and what, Fedor doesnt? We all like money, but I'd bet my pay check that Lesnar and Fedor are cut from the same mold when it comes to competition. These guys thrive on beating the best, they just happen to get paid well for doing it.

Now another absolutely retarded thing I've seen. "I bet Dana White is behind Barnett testing positive"...... Really? People are really grasping at straws for someone to blame. Its insane logic and its like people are in the first stages of a traumatic experience. First denial, soon there will be acceptance. Get over it, it happened, and theres not a damn thing anyone can do about it.
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you are a dumbass if you think brock would beat fedor.
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you are a dumbass if you think brock would beat fedor.
I hope your brain isn't hurting after coming up with a great response like that.
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you are a dumbass if you think brock would beat fedor.
You are a dumbass if you think anyone else but Brock has the best chance to dethrone the last emperor.

Tons of people hate to admit it because of where Brock came form and how quickly he has accomplished the things that he has. Mark my words, in 18-24 months, Brock Lesnar will be the only guy who might actually become the favorite to beat Fedor. Myself personally, would never bet against Fedor. But you can't deny Brock's talent. The guy has physical tools that we all wish we had. If he gets the mental tools as well, he could possibly be the greatest HW ever.
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you are a dumbass if you think brock would beat fedor.
Maybe not would but feal out of anyone he has the best chance. Not be being more technical, but taking Fedor out of his game [hard to do] buy strengh, speed, weight, & gnp
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Are u kidding me, whats fedor weight 230lbs lol Brock would hurt fedor bad, whats Fedor going to do knock him out? the moment Brock is hurt he will take Fedors ass to the mat and thats where the fight will end. Brock is to big, to strong, to athletic, and to controling for Fedor. We saw it VS. Mir, Mir hit Brock kind of hurt him and Brocks instinct cut in and took Mir down. I would say Fedor maybe able to submit him, but the way Brock had to train to beat Mir and Herring was to defend the submission so its going to be the same routine that hes been doing for a year and half now and hes only gonna get better if Brock and Fedor meet in January or December. The only kind of fighter that may beat Brock is a fighter like Carwin or Andre Arlovski. The type that can knock anyonne out with one hit or if taken down, weights a little more and could get a submission or could wrestle with him. Mir said it best, he needed to be 255-260lbs to fight Brock because Brock walks into the fight probably 280-285. I just cant see 230 pound Fedor having any chance with Brock when the weight difference could be 50lbs.
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Doesn't everyone have 1 punch knockout power against arlovski.... I kid.... I kid.....
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Im not saying lucky punch but Arlovski ran into it, Plus Arlovski has a glass Jaw, that was determind when he was with the UFC. Lesnar can take a better beating plus he issnt stupid to do a flying knee. I think Mirs jumping knee would hit harder then anything Fedor would hit him with. Another thing I was going to bring up which is debatable is the fact that Fedor is use to a ring not the Octogon and how much of a factor that will be for Fedor to transion to the UFC. I hope only time will tell, I dont really care who would win that fight. I would just like to see 2 of the best heavyweights in the world go at it and see who is the best fighter in the Heavyweight divsion. I think any true fan of MMA would agree with that even if u Hate Brock or Fedor.
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