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Bisping
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Franklin
|    | 24 | 58.54% | |
Cung
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Guida
|    | 11 | 26.83% | |
Kimbo
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01-22-2010, 12:44 PM
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I wouldnt think anyone on this list is overrated.
Bisping - Even though hes pushed by the UFC, they never make a claim that he is the greatest fighter. he has really good striking and can hold his own against most, but in no way do people think hes the best, hes just a solid talent.
Franklin - Bringing up the fact that he lost to Anderson isnt really fair. Everyone lost to Anderson. Franklin is another solid fighter, and always comes prepared. He went to the judges with both Hendo and Wandy, nothing to scoff at. Everyone has ups and downs,but I never thought as Franklin as being the best, just another solid all around fighter, that never disapoints.
Cung le - Cung hasnt fought enough to even be considered overrated. He tooled Smith until he got lucky and caught him with a punch.but for almost three rounds he was being beat up.
Guida - Hes not overrated, everyone knows eactly what their getting with Guida.
Kimbo - Another guy who hasnt fought enough to be considered. EXC hurt him more then anything, and its not his fault. Even Bas thought he had a good chance, and it actually looks like hes improving his ground game, if only a little.
When I think of an overrated fighter, I think of a fighter who beat alot of mid-talent fighters,and people thought he was in the top, and just always fell short. Overrated fighters I think of Matt Serra.
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01-22-2010, 12:44 PM
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Franklin should have won the Hendo fight. I thought that was a terrible decision. He beat Wanderlei (given, not in terribly impressive fashion). There's no reason he should be anywhere near this list.
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01-22-2010, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by James Deuce Yeah, not quite sure why Guida is in this. I don't think anyone really views him as a contender. He's more of a gatekeeper. | hes probably the best most picture perfect gatekeeper in ufc history and no one views him as a contender i dont' get why he's on here. you can't be overrated when you're not rated that high
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01-22-2010, 02:54 PM
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Mir
Guida
Franklin
Forrest
Kimbo
For me those 5 are very very overrated fighters.
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01-22-2010, 07:36 PM
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Kind of pissed Guida is even being considered here. He's not hyped up to be great, he's just one guy who will always give his 100% regardless of who what when and where he is fighting. Not overrated in my book, but a true fighter. I went with Kimbo but I'd have to say Rashad is pretty overrated
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01-22-2010, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Fight Club Kind of pissed Guida is even being considered here. He's not hyped up to be great, he's just one guy who will always give his 100% regardless of who what when and where he is fighting. Not overrated in my book, but a true fighter. I went with Kimbo but I'd have to say Rashad is pretty overrated | How is Evans overrated??? In his last four fights he has beaten Liddell, Griffin, and Thiago. His only loss his entire career is Machida. Oh yea, he also has wins over solid fighters in Bisping, Lambret and Bonnar. You are right though, the former LHW champion with 3 wins over Top 10 competition in his last 4 fights is overrated.
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01-23-2010, 07:39 AM
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He was getting beat by Liddell when he caught him, Bisping totally won that fight, Thiago should have finished him and rashad was nothing but a bore in their fight, and Bonnar is stephan bonnar. so yay rashad he legitimately beat sean salmon!
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01-23-2010, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trojan Fight Club He was getting beat by Liddell when he caught him, Bisping totally won that fight, Thiago should have finished him and rashad was nothing but a bore in their fight, and Bonnar is stephan bonnar. so yay rashad he legitimately beat sean salmon! | He was barely losing to Liddell when they fought and he was winning the second round before the KO so thats kind of a mute point. He did not "catch" Liddell, he set Liddell up. I am sick and tired of every time a flash KO happens (you know one bunch or kick) it was catching the fighter. You know, it actually takes a lot of skill to set someone up for a one shot KO.
Bisping did not win that fight. Even Fightermetric scored the fight for Evans. He took Bisping down about 6 times in that fight and the striking was just about equal.
Thiago, would have, should have... but didn't. The reason Thiago didn't finish Evans is because Evans dominated him for the first two rounds and wore him out. If it was not for a the ass kicking Evans handed out in the first two rounds, then perhaps Thiago would have finished he didn't. But the fact remains, he didn't.
The guy has one loss on his record to the current UFC LHW champion and he is someone overrated. Add in the fact he is 3-1 against top ten competition and a former champion, makes your argument for him being overrated look dumber and dumber. Next time go with the safe pick and just say Bisping or Kimbo.
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01-24-2010, 05:15 AM
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does anyone actually rate kimbo is more of a question
IMO most overrated fighter in MMA is Thiago Silva
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01-24-2010, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rexthedog does anyone actually rate kimbo is more of a question IMO most overrated fighter in MMA is Thiago Silva | LOL, go jump off a bridge. Personally for me I think Thiago Alves is very overrated but Evans & Franklin should not even be discussed here.
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