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02-21-2010, 09:01 AM
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It just seems like too many companies are mistakenly thinking that they can survive off "real" mma fans and not have a huge casual mma fan following. The Fedor Paradox is that you need to show what he's done to get people excited about him and all his best fights are owned by the UFC now. Coincidentally, this reason is also why you haven't seen any non-grainy versions of Anderson Silva being subbed.
The UFC has too much in place right now for anyone to easily challenge them. TUF and UFNs ensure that their younger stars are getting the much needed exposure. The countdowns and Unleashed shows help hype up future events and even showing the undercards adds up.
Here are some interesting questions: What happens to Hendo if SF folds? Will Fedor jump to yet another sinking ship? How small will AO be if he's forced to fight in the states and be subjected to testing?
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02-21-2010, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by TBEAR SF is on a very slippery slop, and prob going down the hill already. I guess the good news is we COULD get the Fedor brock fight and Moussai would have some real good fights.
The problem if SF goes away , is half there fighter have already been cut from the UFC...so where do they go?
Cyborg, Gina, Toughhill will fight where? | They'll end up fighting at Larrys fish, chips and cage fighting in jerkwater, Louisiana.
Seriously tho, Hershel Walker vs Jose Canseco will save the org.
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02-21-2010, 11:46 AM
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is that ricky gervais next to nick diaz in your sig picture lol?
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02-21-2010, 04:26 PM
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They kind of leave out the 700k in television fees that Strikeforce made. I don't see how this is "proof" that Strikeforce is going under, it takes more then 3 or so cards for a promoter to make a name for itself.
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02-21-2010, 09:25 PM
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Strikeforce was doing fine until they started to act like a major competitor to the UFC. They were doing fine when they were like the "minor league" of mma in the US.
I bet Hendo is getting worried about leaving the UFC but I think they will let him rejoin for less money when SF goes down. Its a win/win situation for the UFC.
Fedor needs to just give up, come fight Brock, get beat and go retire as one of the greatest fighters of all time.
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02-21-2010, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bluerinosg Strikeforce was doing fine until they started to act like a major competitor to the UFC. They were doing fine when they were like the "minor league" of mma in the US.
I bet Hendo is getting worried about leaving the UFC but I think they will let him rejoin for less money when SF goes down. Its a win/win situation for the UFC.
Fedor needs to just give up, come fight Brock, get beat and go retire as one of the greatest fighters of all time. | Fedor get beat by Lesnar? Lesnar will be lucky to leave that cage alive when Fedor gets a hold of him!
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02-22-2010, 10:33 AM
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Even IF Fedor and Brock could be their respective next fight I don't think that Dana would want Brock to fight Fedor after being sick for so long. It wouldn't be the smartest thing to do.
It's interesting that just a few weeks ago some people here were saying that SF is a strong competitor, and even that SF puts on better shows. While I do think that a lot of SF shows are very good, I saw this coming from a mile away.
I'm not bashing anyone for their opinion, I'm just saying that I was waiting for something like this to come up.
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02-22-2010, 10:52 AM
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I think UFC'll get Mousasi alot sooner than Fedor because he's out from under the M1 cloud and with the massive amount of losses Strikeforce looks to be gaining, they don't look to be a very "long term" company and it looks as if Gegard sees the writing on the wall.
I've read alot of stuff about guys like Shields and Diaz being unhappy with Strikeforce and wanting to eventually land in the UFC and when you see the utter disorganization within their card development and buildup to big cards, I don't think Strikeforce really looks all too good.
I could very well see Diaz, Mo, Shields, Melendez, Lawler, Big Foot, Rogers and Lashley in the UFC within two years.
I think Strikeforce really needs to get their brand in finer organization if they want to succeed and they don't seem to care to do this and the results may be alot of guys leaving due to faulty leadership....
I find it quite hard to believe Fedor will ever fight in the UFC, or at the very least SO SOON, since he seems to have a cash cow of copromotion with Strikeforce on CBS, however if they're fucking around and waiting, I COULD see Fedor just go to Japan and fight Barnett and Overeem on his way to awesome paydays and independence via copromotion.
Overeem will NEVER fight in the UFC, let alone the states, for obvious reasons.
If these numbers are true, along with the paydays, I can't see them being viable too much longer, which I think I posted the identical post last year at this very time about AFFLICTION. I guess we'll wait and see.
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02-22-2010, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Badluck33 Right now Dana White is watching re-runs of "Happy Days" lighting up cigars with $100.00 bills.
because he can.
Anyone who didn't predict this is ignorant to the fact. No one right now should think about competing with the UFC. It wont work. New promos should try and be stepping stones for the UFC with guys that have no or barely any pro records. Like a Triple A for baseball. That idea would work. Its an area that UFC doesn't touch but will one day. And when they do, that door will close as well.
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Strikeforce was doing fine until they bite more than they can chew. And fighters taking advantage of them is whats going to put them into the ground. I feel bad to say this but i dont see strikeforce lasting past 2010. | what no IFL
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02-22-2010, 11:16 AM
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I'm noobjacking this based simply on the level of writing and the lack of factual news. A story about rumors that perpetuates the rumors while pretending to be above them?
That is to journalism what reality television is to acting.
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