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02-22-2010, 04:28 PM
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| Rumors About Fedor Fighting Alistair Mount As Strikeforce Does Nothing To Clarify Rumors About Fedor Emelianenko Fighting Alistair Overeem Mounting As Strikeforce Does Nothing to Clarify - Bloody Elbow Quote:
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One report states that Strikeforce will run an event in Nashville, Tennessee on 4/17 with Jake Shields vs. Dan Henderson as the main event, along with Bobby Lashley (and Herschel Walker?) on the fight card. Fedor is not expected to appear at the event.
Henderson vs. Shields should be fine and I don't see how Fedor on the fight card would have been a huge plus. Sure, it would be nice to see him fight Alistair Overeem, but I've always counted on that fight happening in DREAM because of the amount of money that K-1 could put up to make that fight happen. A suggestion perhaps - have the fight happen in Japan on the same day as a Strikeforce CBS event and just air the taped fight on the CBS telecast that same day.
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The fight that every fan has been calling for of late has been Alistair Overeem vs. Fedor Emelianenko, be it in the Japanese ring under the DREAM banner, or in the United States under the Strikeforce banner. The initial reports of the April Strikeforce card was it being headlined by Fedor vs. Fabricio Werdum, which has seemingly fallen through. Insiders have mentioned the amount of money involved in booking Emelianenko, including a seemingly uneven "co-promotion" with M-1 Global.
What we know so far about future plans for DREAM and Alistair Overeem is that Tanigawa has mentioned that Alistair Overeem will fight for the vacant DREAM Heavyweight title during the first half of 2010, and Overeem mentioned fighting for FEG in March or so, fulfilling his contract with K-1. FEG is never afraid to put a lot of money on the table when it comes to big fights, with Alistair Overeem the biggest name in heavyweight MMA in Japan right now and Emelianenko making a name for himself in the United States over the past few years. K-1 offered Emelianenko a contract worth well over a million dollars when his contract with PRIDE was up a few years ago. Emelianenko's stock has risen over the past few years, with international success, but with Fedor's recent fight contracts looking at around $2.3 million when all is said and done ($300,000 to Fedor, $1mil to M-1 co-promotion, $1mil to Vadim for 'consulting'), this fight could come at a steep price.
| Again, the point isn't really the content of these rumors. It's that they're swirling around out there and Strikeforce is saying nothing on the record to debunk them. That's failing PR 101.
One well known MMA reporter I spoke with today said, "it's like (Strikeforce) dropped off the planet."
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02-22-2010, 04:30 PM
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as long as people are talking about strikforce i think scott is happy
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02-22-2010, 05:19 PM
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Yeah, but I'm still not having the main page cluttered up with multiple threads about shit that everyone already knows are rumors.
What the fuck is wrong with MMA journalists lately? There was a major PPV two fucking days ago, and they can't find any actual factual shit to write about? Between this and "Ooooh, Frank Mir said mean things about lesnar" it's like listening to my 13 year old neice talk on the phone.
Sakara, I'm not talking shit about you--if you didn't post it, someone else would--I'm just saddened that melodrama has found such a comfortable home in the sport I love.
I wonder if other subcultures get this nonsense. Like if the curling community gets ripped apart by rumors, or biatheletes want each other to die in the snow and shit, and we just don't hear about it, because we're out of the loop.
rh
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02-23-2010, 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by rivethead Yeah, but I'm still not having the main page cluttered up with multiple threads about shit that everyone already knows are rumors.
What the fuck is wrong with MMA journalists lately? There was a major PPV two fucking days ago, and they can't find any actual factual shit to write about? Between this and "Ooooh, Frank Mir said mean things about lesnar" it's like listening to my 13 year old neice talk on the phone.
Sakara, I'm not talking shit about you--if you didn't post it, someone else would--I'm just saddened that melodrama has found such a comfortable home in the sport I love.
I wonder if other subcultures get this nonsense. Like if the curling community gets ripped apart by rumors, or biatheletes want each other to die in the snow and shit, and we just don't hear about it, because we're out of the loop.
rh | i guess the lack of current mma news and the absence of Fedor gives reason for writers to bullshit about nothing?
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02-23-2010, 05:58 AM
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I could understand that if a major org didn't have a PPV card three frigging days ago, where - Cain not only beat Nog, but beat him in a way that dispelled his "pillowfist" mismoniker
- Bader beat a journeyman Jardine, bringing him to the fringes of relevance
- Sotiropoulos beat a journeyman Stevenson, bringing him to the fringes of relevance and forcing 1000's of people to learn to spell [or at least cut-and-paste] his name.
- Bisping and Wandi looked better than I thought either of them would
- Lytle scored something like his 9th fight bonus out of 10 fights or something
I'd say that any of that has more legs than melodrama and rumors...but melodrama and rumors have carved a comfortable niche in the industry, and don't seem to be going away soon.
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02-23-2010, 06:47 AM
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Chris record...good catch Rivethead...7 OF the Night honors, Plus the war with Marcus Davis was in the running for fight of the year i think.
Win Brian Foster Submission (Kneebar) UFC 110: Nogueira vs. Velasquez 02010-02-21 February 21, 2010 1 1:41 Sydney, Australia Won Submission of the Night Honors
Win Kevin Burns Decision (Unanimous) The Ultimate Finale 9 02009-06-20 June 20, 2009 3 5:00 Las Vegas, Nevada Won Fight of the Night Honors
Loss Marcus Davis Decision (Split) UFC 93: Franklin vs. Henderson 02009-01-17 January 17, 2009 3 5:00 Dublin, Ireland Won Fight of the Night Honors
Win Paul Taylor Decision (Unanimous) UFC 89: Bisping vs. Leben 02008-10-18 October 18, 2008 3 5:00 Birmingham, England Won Fight of the Night Honors
Loss Josh Koscheck Decision (Unanimous) UFC 86: Jackson vs. Griffin 02008-07-05 July 5, 2008 3 5:00 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States
Win Kyle Bradley TKO (Punches) UFC 81: Breaking Point 02008-02-02 February 2, 2008 1 0:33 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Won Knockout of the Night Honors
Loss Thiago Alves TKO (Cut) UFC 78: Validation 02007-11-17 November 17, 2007 2 5:00 Newark, New Jersey, United States Won Fight of the Night Honors
Win Matt Brown Submission (Guillotine Choke) UFL – United Fight League 02007-08-11 August 11, 2007 2 2:49 Indiana, United States
Win Jason Gilliam Submission (Triangle Kimura) UFC 73: Stacked 02007-07-07 July 7, 2007 1 2:15 Sacramento, California Won Submission of the Night Honors
Loss Matt Hughes Decision (Unanimous) UFC 68: Uprising 02007-03-03 March 3, 2007 3 5:00 Columbus, Ohio, United States
Loss Matt Serra Decision (Split) The Ultimate Fighter 4 Finale 02006-11-11 November 11, 2006 3 5:00 Las Vegas, Nevada, United States Lost TUF 4: Welterweight
Win Ross Mason Submission (Rear Naked Choke) CR 15 – Adrenalin Rush 02006-02-04 February 4, 2006 2 4
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