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[snakebite]

Looking at the last couple fights, it seems as though the UFC always has a striker vs a wrestler, striker vs jits or wrestler vs jits. lets take a look:

obviously toney (boxing) vs coture(wrestler)
penn (boxing,BJJ) vs edgar-(wrestler, new found striking skills)
maynard(wrestler) vs florian(muai thai and jits)
maia-(BJJ) miranda(striker)
lauzon-(BJJ)gabe rudiger-(grappler)
nate diaz(primarily BJJ) davis-(striker)
lents-(anoying wrestler)winner-(striker)
sonnen(wrestler) silva- (striker)
hughes-(wrestler) almeida-(BJJ)
Fitch(wrestler) alves (striker)
guida(wrestler) dos anjos(BJJ,striking)
jds (striker) roy nelson (bjj)
story(wrestler) hazelett(BJJ)

These are just some of the fights from ufc 117,118. I bet if i kept digging even more through previous card the results will be the same. They have to know that fans like watching a great stand up war. They should know wrestler vs striker EVERYTIME is going to be ill take you down and hold you there. Its getting really annoying to watch. I love a great BJJ clinic where they are making little changes to advance position and defend, but wrestlers lay there too much. Lets see some true stand up wars for a change with 2 experienced primarily striker based opponents. PLEASE REFRAIN FROM SAYING STYLES MAKE FIGHTS!!! Of course they do, but its not always a good fight.

If you have any other fights that also go along or against what im saying please post them up, and im talking about my experience with recent ufc fights, i didnt go back far obviously but maybe even then it was like this. I seem to remember more stand up wars though in the past.

[Xtremo]

I'm gonna have to disagree with Diaz/Davis and Dos Santos/JDS...but yea, for the most part, its not necessarily a pure striker vs a pure striker the UFC puts up these days...

Lets see some true stand up wars for a change with 2 experienced primarily striker based opponents

How many pure strikers is there to match up anyways?? Name 5 fights...there have been fights that could have been striker vs striker, but those fights don't happen due to injury like Silva vs Belfort and others...

IMO, theirs actually not too many pure strikers in the UFC anymore in a certain weight class that can be matched up with another pure striker in that same weight class...their is only a few..

@LW, Gomi comes to mind as a pure striker, he recently fought Florian and Griffin who are also mainly strikers....

@WW, Daley comes to mind, but he was released and Hardy, he already face off against a striker in Swick, I don't see anymore pure strikers in that weight class, hence him fighting Condit.

@MW, Silva and Belfort are the ones who are mainly striking and that fight has been shelved due to Silva getting in a mess with Sonnen and Belfort taking on Okami...

@LHW, A striker vs striker fight coming up in Rampage vs Machida, other than that, thats it..

@HW, who is a pure striker in the heavyweight division? Cro Cop vs Barry was an example of striker vs striker...and Mir can be a striker himself, but we are not sure if he is going to stand with CC...Oh, I forgot about JDS...he fights strikers such as Gonzaga, Ivel, Nelson, so he pretty much cleaned house and now he is up for the title.

so basically, not too many striker based fighters to fight another striker based fighter in their own weight class...everyone else is multi-disciplined.

[apardo]

Machida vs Shogun - both strikers
Rampage vs Rashad - both strikers (or it was believed of rashad since thats all he was doing his previous fights)
Bonnar vs soszynski - both strikers (twice)
Griffin vs Gomi


there has been quite a few, Now is a striker to you someone that goes out there and bangs ONLY or someone that bangs even though they have a different base?

[The8thPlague]

Originally Posted by 23Xtreme

and Dos Santos/JDS..

He fought his Clone? How did I miss that!??!
That must've been a Slugfest! Who won?

[Rumble]

penn (boxing,BJJ) vs edgar-(wrestler, new found striking skills)
nate diaz(primarily BJJ) davis-(striker)
hughes-(wrestler) almeida-(BJJ)
guida(wrestler) dos anjos(BJJ,striking)
jds (striker) roy nelson (bjj)

All of these fights, although not striker vs. striker per say, primarily took place on their feet. I would even go as far as to say these were exciting stand up battles as well. Especially JDS/Nelson and Diaz/Davis.

I do agree with you that their hasn't been alot of striker vs. striker type of matchs, but that's not to say that some of these fighters from other backgrounds don't have good stand up and put on a good show.

With the way MMA is evolving I think we are going to see more ground battles than stand up wars, and fighters that primarily focus on strikign are going to need to focus more on their ground games to try and avoid being wrestled for 3-5 rounds, or being completely overwhelmed by a jits specialist.

Then again, it all depends on the fighters and what their stengths and weaknesses are, what gameplans they have, and how they execute. You just never know.

[apardo]

Originally Posted by Rumble

penn (boxing,BJJ) vs edgar-(wrestler, new found striking skills)
nate diaz(primarily BJJ) davis-(striker)
hughes-(wrestler) almeida-(BJJ)
guida(wrestler) dos anjos(BJJ,striking)
jds (striker) roy nelson (bjj)

All of these fights, although not striker vs. striker per say, primarily took place on their feet. I would even go as far as to say these were exciting stand up battles as well. Especially JDS/Nelson and Diaz/Davis.

I do agree with you that their hasn't been alot of striker vs. striker type of matchs, but that's not to say that some of these fighters from other backgrounds don't have good stand up and put on a good show.

With the way MMA is evolving I think we are going to see more ground battles than stand up wars, and fighters that primarily focus on strikign are going to need to focus more on their ground games to try and avoid being wrestled for 3-5 rounds, or being completely overwhelmed by a jits specialist.

Then again, it all depends on the fighters and what their stengths and weaknesses are, what gameplans they have, and how they execute. You just never know.

I agree to this completely, we have to understand that MMA is not only striking and thats the beauty of it, that even though it is exciting, we dont get to see only striking we get to see the excitement that other disciplines bring forth to the table of an actual fight. How even though you could be out boxed or out striked you can take it to the ground and dominate (i.e silva vs sonnen or toney vs couture). This IMO is what MMA should be about. Not about just standing toe to toe boxing each other out or kicking, its about how to utilize all the tools you poses.

If all I wanted to do is watch striking I would stick to K-1 or Boxing

[goodtimes]

Well how do you define a striker? A guy who has a background in striking? A guy who throws strikes in a fight? A guy who "likes to strike"? GSP's background is in karate, a striking art, and he primarily uses takedowns. BJ Penn's background is BJJ, and he mostly stands with guys. Lots of people consider Shogun a striker, but he has nasty BJJ and has used it when a guy has been getting the better of him on the feet. Lots of people say Machida is a striker too, but pretty much every fight he does go for takedowns. Rampage's background is wrestling, but he fights like a boxer recently.

Lots of the fights you listed, I can make cases for both sides. Edgar basically stood the entire first fight with Penn and with Sherk, so lots of times he fights like a striker. Penn has has also had fights where he depended on his ground game but recently has fought as a striker. Diaz fights mainly as a boxer, as does Davis, so I definitely think thats a striker vs striker fight, but both guys have shown decent subs in previous fights.

Also, nearly all of the new fighters coming into the UFC have wrestling bases. It's just how it is. Some end up liking to strike like Anthony Johnson, but most stick to their wrestling base.

[TapOut27]

Rashad isn't a striker

[Pasha K]

UFC does not have a good balance of Strikers/wrestlers/BJJ guys.
There are much more of one discipline than in other

[snakebite]

I knew this was going to come up, we all know you have to be well rounded and know at least somewhat a few different disciplines. That being said, you also know who the strikers are and who are not so dont make this difficult. Obciously, anderson has a black belt in BJJ, but would you refer to him as a bjj guy or a striker? Thats what i mean, same with rampage he is obviously a striker,JDS,LYOTO. And you guys are posting a couple striker vs striker fights and there is going to be a few. My point is there are 10X ground guy vs stand up guy and ground vs ground then striker vs striker.