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[Otomosix]

After watching the Shields vs. Kampmann fight, while I could admire Shields' BJJ positioning skills, it dawned on me that there is a huge risk of having the UFC's Welterweight division becoming locked up for any non-Lay-n-Pray top contenders to face GSP (assuming he remains WW champ for some time).

I mean, Jon Fitch by himself is already doing that. Then add Jake Shields (assuming he doesn't find ways to finish fights, which time will tell). And finally throw in Antonio McKee, the notorious LnP master himself.

Don't get me wrong. I admire a good wrestling match but damn if these 3 guys make it to the top (and all of them can't beat GSP), we are going to see some serious boring ass fights in a weight division that is supposed to have the most exciting fights (IMO, because 170 lbs has the best KO power-hitters, fastest grapplers and lasting cardio compared to all the other weight classes when these categories are combined).

I think of these 3 fighters, Jake Shields has the best chance at losing the LnP characteristic. I don't see Fitch or McKee changing a damn thing in their lifetimes.

[MMA4EVERRR]

Originally Posted by Otomosix

After watching the Shields vs. Kampmann fight, while I could admire Shields' BJJ positioning skills, it dawned on me that there is a huge risk of having the UFC's Welterweight division becoming locked up for any non-Lay-n-Pray top contenders to face GSP (assuming he remains WW champ for some time).

I mean, Jon Fitch by himself is already doing that. Then add Jake Shields (assuming he doesn't find ways to finish fights, which time will tell). And finally throw in Antonio McKee, the notorious LnP master himself.

Don't get me wrong. I admire a good wrestling match but damn if these 3 guys make it to the top (and all of them can't beat GSP), we are going to see some serious boring ass fights in a weight division that is supposed to have the most exciting fights (IMO, because 170 lbs has the best KO power-hitters, fastest grapplers and lasting cardio compared to all the other weight classes when these categories are combined).

I think of these 3 fighters, Jake Shields has the best chance at losing the LnP characteristic. I don't see Fitch or McKee changing a damn thing in their lifetimes.

Well for starters, Antonio Mckee is a LW, not a WW, thus he will never face GSP.

Shields needs another fight at WW before he fights GSP..im sure he would like to first get a dominant win with a proper weight cut before he faces the champ

Fitch is not dynamic enough to offer anything for GSP, though he was more dominant in his win against Alves than Shields was against Kampmann...lets hav them face each other so we have an undisputed #1 contender.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR

Shields needs another fight at WW before he fights GSP..im sure he would like to first get a dominant win with a proper weight cut before he faces the champ

Well he might NEED another fight but Dana again said that Shields is the new #1 contender.

[MMA4EVERRR]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Well he might NEED another fight but Dana again said that Shields is the new #1 contender.

well goes to show u how Dana plays favorites cause we can all agree as boring as the fight was, at least Fitch unanimously beat Alves..i'm not saying Fitch should get the shot first but Shields was less than impressive and him and Fitch going at it should determine the next contender

on a side not, anyone feel if Kos comes into the fight against GSP the way Cain did against Lesnar, we can see an upset in the making?

[Otomosix]

Originally Posted by MMA4EVERRR

Well for starters, Antonio Mckee is a LW, not a WW, thus he will never face GSP.

I stand corrected. That splits the top LnP artists somewhat evenly between the Lightweight (Maynard and McKee) and Welterweight (Shields and Fitch) divisions. Awesome...

[Fedorlei Gomipierre]

I don't know how much one can really gauge from Shields' performance last night, because he was pretty zapped and I've heard tonnes of shit about a messed up back and all that considered, he still outgrappled the shit out of Kampmann and if healthy and properly cutdown, he's a legitimate challenger....however if and when he does fight GSP(who is synonomous with the WW title), there's not problem with LNP, because Shields' striking is so rudimentary and downright nonexistent, that I see GSP picking him apart all day long with distance and timing and utilizing a glorious sprawl, Shields has the edge in grappling for sure, but straight MMA wrestling will be close, since Shields isn't going to be able to come in for a shoot without a sufficient amount of damage and c'mon, he got his ass beaten by Martin Kampmann last night, GSP's standup is alot tighter than that.

Endgame, GSP technically suffocates Kos and then punches Jake Shields' face....however I'm still completely sure that Dana won't change his mind and make Fitch/Shields for some sort of interim title and have GSP/Anderson at MW for the late spring/early summer of 2011 and then have GSP face the winner of that fight. Something tells me Dana doesn't really want Shields atop his division, which was reason he gave him Kampmann(who has solid striking and a competent grappling base) and I see more roadblocks up ahead for him.

[claycollett3]

I hope this doesn't happen. However it is a trend that's gaining steam w all the collegiate wrestlers making the transition to mma. I think the best fix to keep the mixed in MMA is to implement a new scoring system, and a yellow card like pride had.

[NLRepublic]

With Fitch, Kos, Shields and GSP I can definitely see the risk

But if Shields gets a shot at GSP, I actually could see Georges just keeping it on the feet and pick him apart because whether he tko's him or not, Georges can just move in and out and pepper Shields all night like target practice. If Shields is able to grapple well enough though to result in a lot of action against the cage and keep the distance at a minimum, GSP probably would end up going back to the wrestling and just win by keeping the top position

[Mac]

I feel bad for some of you as you are going to have to find a new flavor of the month sport to pass your time soon.

[Y2JUBAE]

For me, wrestlers on the ground are the most boring fights. Shields's fight last night was not boring, they were constantly working, going back and forth. I thought Jake was done for a minute there, he was seriously out of gas. I don't have any hopes for Kos and GSP's fight being anything entertaining at all, however, I think Shields vs. GSP would be good. GSP would probably keep the fight standing. Fitch vs. GSP. Would be a mirror image of the first fight.

This is my least favorite division.