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01-05-2011, 01:13 PM
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The UFC Should Book Brock Lesnar vs Junior Dos Santos for an Interim Title Bout
by Kid Nate on Jan 5, 2011 2:59 PM EST in UFC Editorial
UFC champ Cain Velasquez emerged from UFC 121 as a star in the making. He utterly demolished Brock Lesnar and seemed to be clicking with the huge Hispanic demographic that the UFC is desperate to penetrate. But now he's out with a torn rotator cuff. Initial reports from his coaching staff estimated his time out at six months or so. But Dr. Johnny Benjamin is less sanguine:
Velasquez's trainer, Javier Mendez, told MMAjunkie.com the fighter has a 90 percent tear. For such an injury, a minimally invasive technique such as arthroscopic repair may not be an option for a high-caliber athlete who has a massive shoulder. Therefore, Velasquez probably will require an open surgery with a much larger incision and surgical field. And generally speaking, larger surgery equals longer recovery.
The recovery will be long - likely, in all honestly, a year. But the recovery is not my primary concern. My concerns lie with the overall strength and flexibility of his shoulder after the rehab. Also, will his repair, even after it has fully healed, stand up to the grind of training and the physicality of MMA competition?
Benjamin doesn't have the answer but his informed opinion should be a red alert to the UFC brass that they need a back up plan in the heavyweight division post-haste.
Dave Meltzer identifies their best option:
Brock Lesnar vs. Junior Dos Santos would be the biggest possible match, since Lesnar is the sport's biggest pay-per-view draw. As of a few weeks ago, Lesnar and Dana White had not spoken since Lesnar lost the title. White noted in a text message to Yahoo! Sports on Tuesday that nothing has changed regarding Lesnar's situation.
The former champion has an autobiography coming out on April 19 and would most likely be out promoting the book throughout the month. That means if he doesn't fight on a March 19 show that is already almost full, he may also not be available until July at the earliest.
"I'd love to see Dos Santos fight Lesnar," said Mendes. "I hope that happens."
A win by Dos Santos over Lesnar will make him come across as to the public as a bigger threat to Velasquez, meaning stronger pay-per-view numbers. A win by Lesnar would be in a sense a best case possible scenario for Velasquez. Lesnar challenging Velasquez for the title would likely be the second biggest pay-per-view event in UFC history.
Meltzer is right to ID Lesnar vs JDS as the best possible match but I think he's missing the one extra twist needed to take it over the top: an interim title at stake.
The UFC has had so many interim heavyweight champs in recent years -- Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira while Randy Couture was holding out, Shane Carwin while Lesnar was ill -- that they've watered it down pretty bad. But given the possibility of the heavyweight title going more than a year without being defended, they need to move.
The biggest risk of a Lesnar vs Dos Santos bout is that JDS will pummel Lesnar even worse than Cain Velasquez did and poof the biggest draw in UFC history is gone. Even Lesnar's vaunted mystique couldn't survive a third straight bout where he looked like he can't handle getting punched in the face. Shane Carwin gave Lesnar a huge scare at UFC 116 before gassing and being submitted in the second round. Cain made Lesnar look utterly silly and sad.
It's amazing how the UFC's heavyweight division has gone from stacked to starving in only a few months. A year ago fans were worried about Brock Lesnar's health, but rising stars Shane Carwin, Cain Velasquez, Junior Dos Santos, Roy Nelson, Todd Duffee and Brendan Schaub combined with veteran stars Frank Mir, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, Randy Couture and Mirko Filopovic, aka Cro Cop had fans anticipating big things from the division. Not just big things, but epic things.
With Strikeforce putting together a stacked heavyweight tournament featuring Fedor Emelianenko, Fabricio Werdum and Alistair Overem, the UFC has its work cut out to maintain its brief reign as the top heavyweight division in the sport.
Strikeforce has also developed some prospects that the UFC would love to have right about now -- Daniel Cormier, Shane Del Rosario, Lavar Johnson. Even Bellator's utterly uncharismatic Cole Konrad might be a welcome addition to the UFC this year.
It will be very interesting to see what rabbits Dana White and Joe Silva can pull out of their hat.
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01-05-2011, 01:15 PM
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business wise its the best bet but from an actual logical perspective its fucking retarded
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01-05-2011, 01:18 PM
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I like it. If Lesnar wins then it shows JDS really has no business stepping into the Octagon with Cain. If JDS wins then it just makes his eventual fight with Cain much much bigger.
And for Cain its a win-win, he either fights Lesnar (huge PPV) or a guy that just beat Lesnar (huge PPV). Where as just fighting JDS might not have pulled in as much money.
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01-05-2011, 01:19 PM
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I just fucking hate "interim" titles!!
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01-05-2011, 01:23 PM
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Business yes for PPV draw but not a fight I want to see Lesnar doesn't deserve to face JDS after the massacre he took..If they do this just to bring him back so he doesn't hold up it stupid on Dana and Silvas part. But whos there to face JDS? Half there roster is dealing with shit
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01-05-2011, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by xdevilhawk138x Business yes for PPV draw but not a fight I want to see Lesnar doesn't deserve to face JDS after the massacre he took..If they do this just to bring him back so he doesn't hold up it stupid on Dana and Silvas part. But whos there to face JDS? Half there roster is dealing with shit | I don't really understand the first part. Lesnar is a former champion with wins over Couture, Mir and Carwin. Yes he got whooped by Cain, but Cain has whooped on everyone. So the only person in the UFC Lesnar does not deserve to fight right now is Cain without a win or two inbetween.
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01-05-2011, 01:37 PM
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This would be a very risky fight for the UFC at this point as Brock takes a huge paycheck and runs a much higher risk imo of a third beatdown in a row, making him much less of a draw. A submission loss to somebody like Nog, or Big Country would do far less damage to his draw potential than Brock sleeping on the canvas.
I wouldn't risk it if I was the UFC, but it is a very legit fight imo from the fans' perspective, and is perfectly fair to JDS and Brock both.
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01-05-2011, 01:46 PM
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JDS by vicious tko...
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01-05-2011, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by noahm This would be a very risky fight for the UFC at this point as Brock takes a huge paycheck and runs a much higher risk imo of a third beatdown in a row, making him much less of a draw. A submission loss to somebody like Nog, or Big Country would do far less damage to his draw potential than Brock sleeping on the canvas.
I wouldn't risk it if I was the UFC, but it is a very legit fight imo from the fans' perspective, and is perfectly fair to JDS and Brock both. | Roy Nelson is just as capable of knocking Brock out as JDS is...
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01-05-2011, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kickass32 I just fucking hate "interim" titles!! | Well said man. Lesnar vs JDS makes no sense at all. Lesnar lost his title in spectular fashion, and JDS has worked his way up through the ranks with really fantastic performances, and has been promised as the next in line for Cain.
In an ideal world, JDS would be offered his next opponent, and win or lose would still be given his shot against Cain as promised. Unfortunately this isn't how it works, and if JDS was still to be given his title shot even if he was to lose his next fight, fans would be in uproar at the UFC for making illogical fights (as JDS would technically no longer qualify as number one contender). Sure fight fans would LOVE to see JDS/Cain, but if JDS lost his next fight, it just wouldn't be the most logical fight. For this reason I see the UFC feeding JDS a relatively easy opponent for his next fight, almost as a formality so that he can still get his shot at the title.
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