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[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by Lefthookstcrook

Exactly. But to Pashak he'd just give you an arguement as to why they were all meaningful fights lol

Pashak makes me dislike a fighter I actually really like.

[Adambomb]

Originally Posted by Pashak

Zulu and HongMan were freakshows and those matches were made only for the pleasure of Japanese fans that love freakshows.

Rogers was at least undefeated and was coming from a 20 seconds KO win over Andrei Arlovksy, who was still very relevant at the time.

And yeah, please add those 10 names to the list. I have a lot of curiosity to see who you are going to put there.

I'll take a crack at it!

Let's break down Fedor's record:

Class 1 - Total Cans:

1. Zulu
2. Choi
3. Egidijus Valavičius (5-2 at the time, 2-2 over his last 4 to no-names)
4. Yuji Nagata (Pro wrestler)
5. Lee Hasdel (3-6 before Fedor)
6. Chris Haseman (a can in the HW division. Lost to Matt Hughes previously)
7. Ryushi Yanagisawa (24-22-9 before Fedor)
8. Kerry Schall (5-2 before Fedor, had been crushed by Travis Fulton)
9. Martin Lazarov (first MMA fight Vs Fedor)
10. Levon Lagvilava (1-2 Vs Fedor)
11. Hiroya Takada (first MMA fight Vs Fedor)
12. Mihail Apostolov (only MMA fight Vs Fedor)
13. Hiroya Takada (first MMA fight Vs Fedor)

Class 2 - Quality Non-Heavyweights:

14. Ricardo Arona
15. Babalu
16. Matt Lindland

Class 3 - Good but not Top 10 Heavyweights (at the time they fought):

17. Kazuyuki Fujita
18. Kevin Randleman
19. Nayoya Ogawa
20. Gary Goodridge

Class 4 - Top 10 quality (at the time they fought):

21. Heath Herring
22. Semmy Schilt
23 & 24. Mark Coleman
25. Mark Hunt
26. Bret Rogers

Clas 5: Top 5 Quality (at the time they fought):

27 & 28. Big Nog
29. Cro Cop
30. Tim Sylvia
31. Andrei Arlovski

So to break down Fedor's victories:

Vs top 5: 5 wins
Vs top 10: 6 wins
Vs Quality HW's: 4 wins
Vs Non-HW's: 3 wins
Vs Cans: 13 wins

In conclusion, Fedor does have more quality heavyweight wins than just about anyone with 15, but the other half of his career victories came against either lighter or pitiful opposition.

Greatest heavyweight of all-time? Yes
Greatest fighter of all-time: No

At this point both Whitehead & Wiuff would go in the can category, which based on Fedor's career, could be seen as a fitting way for it to end. He did spend half of it crushing cans.

[dbader08]

This is laughable, more laughable than Randleman.

[IceCold48]

people talk about fedor's recent loses ruining his legacy. no THIS wil ltarnish his legacy.
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giving him D level fighters just so he can get a win wll give ammo for the haters for ever.

[dbader08]

To be fair, most of the cans Fedor faced were within his first 10 or 12 fights. There were a few more after that, and Choi is a borderline can, but I wouldnt say he's a total can. He is a dangerous fight for anyone and is a tough k-1 fighter. It is pretty easy to beat him if you can get him to the ground, though. He's definitely not someone Fedor should have been fighting...

[Pasha K]

LOL, this is funny.
Guys, I mean, are you serious??

You are trying to tell me that fedor has been fighting cans and then you tell me that the GOATS are Cain and JDS LMFAO.

Cain has had only 9 bouts. Of those 9 only 2 are victories over fighters that were TOP 10 at the moment.
2 are again decent competition, and 5 are against cans.


JDS has had 14 bouts. He has only 2 victories against Top 10 fighters. 5 vcitories over decent competition, and the rest are cans. Oh and BTW he also has a loss to a can named Joaquim Ferreira.

Look at the extraordinary names JDS and Cain have fought:

Jailson Silva, Eduardo Maiorino, Edson Silva, Joaquin Ferreira, Jair Goncalves, Jesse Fujarzyk, Jeremiah Constant, Brad Morris....You want me to continue??

If you are criticizing Fedor because he fought cans at the beginning of his career why you are not criticizing JDS and Cain for doing the same thing????
Oh sorry, probably because they are in UFC and that automatically makes them amazingly awesome right?

Some of you are confusing "Greatest of all time" with rankings of TODAY.
Today obvioulsy Cain and JDS are ranked higher than Fedor and maybe they would have give him troubles even in the PRIDE days, but they have done nothing to be considered historically better than Emelianenko. Fedor has achieved in his career much more than Cain and JDS have done so far.
Fedor has more than 10 victories over Top 10 competition, Cain and JDS have a combined number of 4!!!!!!

Pashak makes me dislike a fighter I actually really like.

LMAO thanks a lot buddy, I did not realized that I was that important for you to the point that I am the reason of why you dislike a fighter hahaha, so thanks a lot.
Shame that I can not say the same thing about you though...sorry.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by Pashak

LMAO thanks a lot buddy, I did not realized that I was that important for you to the point that I am the reason of why you dislike a fighter hahaha, so thanks a lot.

Yeah if you want that to be what you are known for then by all means.

Originally Posted by Pashak

Shame that I can not say the same thing about you though...sorry.

Thank god. I would never want to spew so much bullshit that it turns people away from certain fighters. So thank you.

[Pasha K]

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Yeah if you want that to be what you are known for then by all means.




Thank god. I would never want to spew so much bullshit that it turns people away from certain fighters. So thank you.

LOL, and believe me that I prefer to be known for being a "Fedor nuthugger" than for being a dickhead, "Mr. +1 post", somebody that has heated discussions with everybody and a Dana nuthugger.

I write Bullshit?? hahahaha, and in that case what do YOU write? Aside of copying and pasting what else do you do?
You seriously say that Big NOG should be considered the GOAT and not Fedor. That is not bullshit???
Listen, I never considered you to be briliant, so since a very long time I am not surprised when I see stupid comments by you, I am actually pretty used to that. So you are not the right person to say that I write BS.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by Pashak

and a Dana nuthugger.

First time I've ever been called that since I've been a member.

Originally Posted by Pashak

I write Bullshit?? hahahaha, and in that case what do YOU write? Aside of copying and pasting what else do you do?

Yeah all the articles you post on, reply about. Yeah those. You say that like it's a knock. The difference is, I actually CONTRIBUTE to the forums, you just talk.

Originally Posted by Pashak

You seriously say that Big NOG should be considered the GOAT and not Fedor. That is not bullshit???

When did I say that? I posed the question, I never said he was.

Originally Posted by Pashak

Listen, I never considered you to be briliant,

I hope not since you misspelled BRILLIANT.

[Pasha K]

Ah there freakshows! then that makes it okay!

uhmm maybe you meant "They're"? LOL