Uncle Chael Bad for Business? (spoilers)

CtGreat · 08-27-2011, 11:17 PM

With the most recent devastating defeat of Yushin Okami, and the very lackluster performance of Jake Shields; what do these two matches have in common? The complete and utter confidence/backing by the troll king himself, Chael Sonnen. Chael Sonnen worked extensively with Yushin Okami in preparation for Anderson Silva and with Jake shields in preparation for GSP.

Its starting to seem like Chael is just bad for business if your a fighter. I wonder what fighter he decides to back next.

Pasha K · 08-27-2011, 11:19 PM

Chael is only good for trolling, for everything else...mmm not so much. Well he is a good wrestler too though.

IceCold48 · 08-27-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CtGreat

With the most recent devastating defeat of Yushin Okami, and the very lackluster performance of Jake Shields; what do these two matches have in common? The complete and utter confidence/backing by the troll king himself, Chael Sonnen. Chael Sonnen worked extensively with Yushin Okami in preparation for Anderson Silva and with Jake shields in preparation for GSP.

Its starting to seem like Chael is just bad for business if your a fighter. I wonder what fighter he decides to back next.

sheilds and okami both tried like one lackluster takedown each i dont think thats chael's fault. okami out wrestled mark munoz so i think chael is helping him he was just lost and overwhelmed tonight.

Kimbo> Rampage · 08-27-2011, 11:56 PM

Thread is 100% true. I completely agree.

Sakara=Excitement · 08-28-2011, 12:03 AM

Yeah Okami outwrestled Mark Munoz after working with Chael.

Yushin attempted zero takedowns against Anderson settling for grappling along the cage. Jake tried once or twice to take down GSP.

So yeah.

Kimbo> Rampage · 08-28-2011, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

Yeah Okami outwrestled Mark Munoz after working with Chael.

Yushin attempted zero takedowns against Anderson settling for grappling along the cage. Jake tried once or twice to take down GSP.

So yeah.

He attempted a takedown twice from the clinch in the first round. He may have had more luck if he had elite wrestling, a good dose of "Therapy"(inject-able testosterone), and Anderson had a cracked rib.

GSP is another story. Its like a lot of people havent seen his fights. He has the best TDD in the game. Sheilds tried and was far from successful, as expected. GSP makes good wrestlers look bad.

Is Koscheck the only guy to get GSP down in both of their fights in GSP's UFC career?...

Sakara=Excitement · 08-28-2011, 12:14 AM

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Is Koscheck the only guy to get GSP down in both of their fights in GSP's UFC career?...

I don't remember Kos taking him down in their second fight. BJ didn't in the first fight did he? Probably not.

Yeah I don't think anyone has but Kos.

Kimbo> Rampage · 08-28-2011, 12:23 AM

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I don't remember Kos taking him down in their second fight. BJ didn't in the first fight did he? Probably not.

Yeah I don't think anyone has but Kos.

Kos got GSP down in the First fight and did get him down in the Second but GSP got back up.

GSP has elite TDD. Shields is a good wrestler but Kos is far better and he barley had success against gsp.

Okami has always been a grinder and gets his takedowns from clinch typically. Training with sonnen isnt going to change his entire style and turn him into an elite wrestler with good double legs.

Anyone seen massacre lately? I knew he would crawl off after Okami got embarrassed.

The_Icon · 08-28-2011, 08:58 AM

I don't see how training with an excellent wrestler can hurt you. Chael isn't in the cage with them when they fight, it's up to the fighters to implement their training during a fight. Chael's antics outside of the cage simply bring attention to the fighter he is backing, or at least the fight itself. Like him or hate him "any press is good press" as they say.