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[Pasha K]

Originally Posted by MMATT

I speak the truth, BJ won the first fight when it was a fair fight, then GSP cheated in the 2nd fight so BJ Penn is 2-0 vs GSP and is yours and my WW Champion of the world!

Yeah sure and Sonnen is the MW champion

[Chute_Boxe44]

Fuck grease gate, how about we revisit this





Nobody seems to bring this up at all and its just ridiculous

Someone please come up with a smart ass comment as to how this is not cheating

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I'm guessing/hoping thats ^ the death of this thread. Yeah he greased he cheated. It should be a no contest but than again same goes for Silva. It is more of an offense for Anderson who is trying to not go to the ground that for GSP because his game is controlling and you can't control when you're slippery yourself

[Sniggles]

Originally Posted by end it with a left

I'm guessing/hoping thats ^ the death of this thread. Yeah he greased he cheated. It should be a no contest but than again same goes for Silva. It is more of an offense for Anderson who is trying to not go to the ground that for GSP because his game is controlling and you can't control when you're slippery yourself

That's pretty ignorant. It is EASIER for GSP to control a BJJ wizard like BJ Penn when he has ZERO risk of being caught in a submission. Explain to me how someone can pull rubber guard, pull off a triangle or even hold his head down in guard while he is reigning down blows. All GSP had to do is push him around and hold BJ down with his UNGREASED arms and hands.



Vaseline works for wrestlers against BJJ.

Originally Posted by VimyRidge

Won the first fight??????? More like GSP won despite being poked in the eye.

Does a fist in the eye count as a eye poke?

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by rampage9712

It seems its impossible to have an intelligent conversation on this. Its always "quit bitching, GSP didnt cheat" or "GSP cheated".

So why bring it up then?

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Originally Posted by Degenero

That's pretty ignorant. It is EASIER for GSP to control a BJJ wizard like BJ Penn when he has ZERO risk of being caught in a submission. Explain to me how someone can pull rubber guard, pull off a triangle or even hold his head down in guard while he is reigning down blows. All GSP had to do is push him around and hold BJ down with his UNGREASED arms and hands.

Ok how about you grease yourself up and than try taking down someone with tdd. It's a lot harder to get someone down when you're slippery. You should have a hard time grabbing and controlling your opponent. Yeah it makes some submissions harder but all chokes including triangles can be sinched in when slippery. The grease did not go all the up to the back of GSP head or down the back of his legs where BJ could have grabbed him to control his posture when he's throwing up his legs with out controlling a head or arm. Instead he threw up half assed attempts at triangles that only required posturing up which he could have down without grease.

[goodtimes]

Originally Posted by end it with a left

Ok how about you grease yourself up and than try taking down someone with tdd. It's a lot harder to get someone down when you're slippery. You should have a hard time grabbing and controlling your opponent. Yeah it makes some submissions harder but all chokes including triangles can be sinched in when slippery. The grease did not go all the up to the back of GSP head or down the back of his legs where BJ could have grabbed him to control his posture when he's throwing up his legs with out controlling a head or arm. Instead he threw up half assed attempts at triangles that only required posturing up which he could have down without grease.

A lot of pro grapplers grease. There were plenty of greasing scandals in olympic judo. Being greasy is an advantage for a grappler, whether trying to avoid takedowns or taking someone down.

This arguments been done to death; clearly, a guy in GSP's corner rubbed grease on him. It was pretty stupid, since everyone saw him doing it. It could have turned into something a lot more serious, but I think they wanted to save GSP's reputation and hung it up on the cornerman who did it, and it caused a rule change which is good.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by Degenero

Does a fist in the eye count as a eye poke?

I know you're biased and all but everyone knows it was an eye poke that did that damage to GSP's eye.

I find it crazy that GSP has been so open about his feelings during that fight, and what he overcame to win that fight, and he gets shit on because of nuthuggery. A shame really.

Besides, when's the last time BJ pulled a submission from the bottom anyways in an MMA match? Don't worry, I'll wait

[Kimbo> Rampage]

This was more of an example on the topic of "greasing" in mma. I never said anything negative about any fighter here.

Why get pissed that I brought it up? If you are sick of the topic and dont care... dont post here. I was trying to have a discussion on greasing.

Originally Posted by Sakara=Excitement

So why bring it up then?

You dont have to post in a thread if you dont want to. You dont like a thread then just leave it.

[Sakara=Excitement]

Originally Posted by rampage9712

This was more of an example on the topic of "greasing" in mma. I never said anything negative about any fighter here.

Why get pissed that I brought it up? If you are sick of the topic and dont care... dont post here. I was trying to have a discussion on greasing.




You dont have to post in a thread if you dont want to. You dont like a thread then just leave it.

Well I hope you can see why this got n00bjacked. I mean, you can't admit that the topic is done to death, that no one has anything constructive to say, and then say if you don't like it not to post, lol.