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Old 12-24-2011, 08:07 AM   #21 (permalink)
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If I paid a guide to get me in and my stuff out and I left him to take care of it. Ya then I put a lot of the blame on the guide. I've caped a few deer in the field so the hide didn't get messed up for the mount, while we drug the rest out.
As I stated earlier we don't know the full story to what really happened and I left the blame to either or both sides to what ever the real story was. Try reading my full post before you go off.
It's the guide's job to let Lesnar know the rules and take him on a trip.

First off, Brock should and most definitely did already know the rules. He bought tags to kill 2...he knows he should have had and used both tags.

None of us know exactly what went down, and unless the guide comes out and tells his complete side of the story, I don't think we will know. They only charged him with failing to tag. I am sure it was much worse.

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Hunter harvested game birds (pheasant, quail, goose, etc.) or cervid carcasses (e.g. deer, moose, elk, caribou, etc.) from Canada are allowed entry when importers present to the Customs and Border Protection officer evidence such as a hunting license that the product is hunter harvested wild game. Hunter-harvested wild non-cervid animal (e.g. wild sheep, goats, or bison/buffalo, etc.) meat or carcasses, which must be eviscerated and head removed, are allowed when the hunter shows to CBP officers a hunting license, tag, or equivalent.
So, it the reason he got in trouble is he killed 2 deer...only tagged one...removed their heads....bagged their meat....brought them to the border...they checked the animals and tags. They only found 1 tag and 2 dead animals and all their meat. So he had to leave one....and it's meat.

Then it was up to Alberta to charge him with not having a tag and throwing away half his meat....then the guide came out and told authorities he only tagged one of the animals.

That is the problem.

Not as big and issue as I thought. Glad they dropped the other charges.

Sounds like he followed all the rules, except for actually using that second tag....I wonder who actually has that second tag? Was it in Brock's pocket once he got to the border? I bet it was in Brock's possession and not in the Guide's.
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The charge is for leaving behind a rotting carcass. I am sure that the hunter would know that it's wrong to leave a carcass to rot in the forest rather than take it with them.
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The thing wrong with human beings don't take responsibility for their own actions (apparently if the guy has fanboys they won't let him either). Only reason why he paid his bill is because he has mad stacks not because he thinks what he did was wrong.
I agree people need to take responsibility for their actions. But if you truly would of READ what I said you would of noticed I didn't say he was right or wrong or to what degree. I've spent over 20 years in law enforcement and the one thing I know for sure is theirs 2 sides of every story and almost never is one side completely right.
Now you assume just because he has money
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I agree people need to take responsibility for their actions. But if you truly would of READ what I said you would of noticed I didn't say he was right or wrong or to what degree. I've spent over 20 years in law enforcement and the one thing I know for sure is theirs 2 sides of every story and almost never is one side completely right.
Now you assume just because he has money
I assume it is because he cares not for what he does nor does he care for the reprecussions and for how the charges of what he did are laid out. You ass.
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How is the guide at fault for Brock shooting animals and leaving them to rot?

Do people not familiarize themselves with legisliation in jurisdictions outside their own?
when someone hunts in a place where they are not familiar with local hunting laws they hire a guide for this reason. not all fault is on the guide but that is a big part of a hunting guide's job. however i'm sure this wasnt brocks first hunting trip to canada and at the end of the day brock is the one that did the deed and its ultimatly his responsibility to make sure he is following proper hunting and tagging procedures. IMHO both are at fault
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So, it the reason he got in trouble is he killed 2 deer...only tagged one...removed their heads....bagged their meat....brought them to the border...they checked the animals and tags. They only found 1 tag and 2 dead animals and all their meat. So he had to leave one....and it's meat.

Then it was up to Alberta to charge him with not having a tag and throwing away half his meat....then the guide came out and told authorities he only tagged one of the animals.

That is the problem.

Not as big and issue as I thought. Glad they dropped the other charges.

Sounds like he followed all the rules, except for actually using that second tag....I wonder who actually has that second tag? Was it in Brock's pocket once he got to the border? I bet it was in Brock's possession and not in the Guide's.
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So if you read what Beau wrote it's not in the forest and he didn't leave it behind until he couldn't legally couldn't take it any further. I'll stop their and keep it simple for ya. So now you can throw some more swear words at me to prove your point
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I assume it is because he cares not for what he does nor does he care for the reprecussions and for how the charges of what he did are laid out. You ass.
Yeah well congrats on making yourself look like an asshole who doesn't read the entire story. Check out Beau's post unless you want to continue to sound like a broke dick who's mad at people for making money.
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LoL.

Could I have a link for what beau's version is? It says the charge is for leaving a rotting carcass yet he did not provide a source for it. Therefore his statement is just speculation as any of ours is.

If he could not take it any further than he could have made arrangements for it to go somewhere. Perhaps with the guide who took him out.

I threw no swear words. Pretty funny that you say that Mr. Highlighter.
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Could I have a link for what beau's version is? It says the charge is for leaving a rotting carcass yet he did not provide a source for it. Therefore his statement is just speculation as any of ours is.

If he could not take it any further than he could have made arrangements for it to go somewhere. Perhaps with the guide who took him out.

I threw no swear words. Pretty funny that you say that Mr. Highlighter.
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Yes I highlighted it and I thought that was pretty good too surprised you caught it more though.
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Wow, people first off lets think of something. You are going to an out of country hunt, you hire a local guide, because well the laws of the land the guide will know, also they will be able to help with everything with the hunt. Typically guides get paid from anywhere between 3000-8000 per hunt, and people use guides when they like to hunt but have other things to do like scouting out before the hunting season starts, ect. Also you typically have good faith put in the guide that they will keep you legit. Now one of the reasons the charges were dropped on the other crimes simply legally the responsibility is on that of the Guide, not the hunter. So again the people who will hate brock for no reason now compare him to Michael Vick.. how fucking sad are you fools?
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