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09-09-2012, 07:55 AM
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No. He had a good run for a couple of fights but no. Quitting when you start to get your ass kicked does not make you HOF material. Sure lets look at his 3 losses.....no lets look at his last 2. When he got to the top, he didnt win. Mir, while a good fighter, is not at the top of the HW division. And Mir did have Lesnar in trouble with the knee. The position in the cage saved Lesnar that fight. In the Carwin fight Lesnar was gone...but the ref didnt stop it and Carwin blew his wad. Lesnar received a gift.
Losing to the top guys does make someone HOF material, beating the top guys does.
Lesnar was an OK MMA fighter. Nothing more
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09-09-2012, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The Return Of...... No. He had a good run for a couple of fights but no. Quitting when you start to get your ass kicked does not make you HOF material. Sure lets look at his 3 losses.....no lets look at his last 2. When he got to the top, he didnt win. Mir, while a good fighter, is not at the top of the HW division. And Mir did have Lesnar in trouble with the knee. The position in the cage saved Lesnar that fight. In the Carwin fight Lesnar was gone...but the ref didnt stop it and Carwin blew his wad. Lesnar received a gift.
Losing to the top guys does make someone HOF material, beating the top guys does.
Lesnar was an OK MMA fighter. Nothing more | Same can be said about Coleman, only he lost to weaker fighters and got beat by Coture, someone Brock beat.
Also, Mask, never fought, yet he is in the UFC HOF.
Thus, my opinion is that all fighters are qualified to be in the UFC's lame ass HOF. It is nothing prestigious.
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09-09-2012, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by The Return Of...... No. He had a good run for a couple of fights but no. Quitting when you start to get your ass kicked does not make you HOF material. Sure lets look at his 3 losses.....no lets look at his last 2. When he got to the top, he didnt win. Mir, while a good fighter, is not at the top of the HW division. And Mir did have Lesnar in trouble with the knee. The position in the cage saved Lesnar that fight. In the Carwin fight Lesnar was gone...but the ref didnt stop it and Carwin blew his wad. Lesnar received a gift.
Losing to the top guys does make someone HOF material, beating the top guys does.
Lesnar was an OK MMA fighter. Nothing more | Kinda like Fedor who also never beat any of the top guys that Lesnar lost to. But hey unlike Fedor at least he has a couple of title defenses against top guys under his belt.
I suppose you're right though both of these guys are just OK MMA fighters.... nothing more.
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09-09-2012, 04:54 PM
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09-09-2012, 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg I think its about as legit as his accomplishments. | That's what I'm saying, he beat an old ass LHW, a mediocre HW and Carwin and Mir. Only in Bizzaro World is that worthy of HOF. This dude's accomplishments don't even qualify for honorable mention.
You guys are definitely busting balls. No body can be that stupid, can they?
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09-09-2012, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mac That's what I'm saying, he beat an old ass LHW, a mediocre HW and Carwin and Mir. Only in Bizzaro World is that worthy of HOF. This dude's accomplishments don't even qualify for honorable mention.
You guys are definitely busting balls. No body can be that stupid, can they? | What hw can you think of is deserving of HOF?
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09-09-2012, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by roaddawg What hw can you think of is deserving of HOF? | I'd have to give that a lot of thought but even if I didn't come up with one, Brock wouldn't get it by default.
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Originally Posted by roaddawg Kinda like Fedor who also never beat any of the top guys that Lesnar lost to. But hey unlike Fedor at least he has a couple of title defenses against top guys under his belt.
I suppose you're right though both of these guys are just OK MMA fighters.... nothing more. | I believe if it wasn't already apparent you just cemented yourself as a highly functional, developmentally challenged, mouth breather that should be under constant supervision for fear of choking on your own tongue till death.
You do understand Fedor fought for much longer cementing a legacy of greatness. Yes he lost against some of the best towards the end of his career. A career that lasted 12 years not 4 i hope you can grasp this.
And Y2JUBAE you keep talking smack about Coleman but he is the father of ground and pound that paved the way and showed how you could perfect GNP while avoiding the subs of BJJ. If not for him we may have never had guys like Matt Hughes who early on copied Colemans recipe for success.
By no means do i think Coleman is the best ever i just think he was an inovator who has more of a right to the UFC HOF than Lesnar
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09-10-2012, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by beardown98 By no means do i think Coleman is the best ever i just think he was an inovator who has more of a right to the UFC HOF than Lesnar | I was never a Coleman fan, but he's done more for MMA than lesnar has, by far. Bringing fans from WWE brings in revenue, but it doesn't innovate anything.
Coleman is one of many, many, many fighters who did more with less gifts than lesnar did.
That being said, I can't imagine lesnar doesn't get inducted, because the UFC HOF is a joke without a punchline. At least when lesnar gets in, it's can become a joke who turtles as soon as it takes a punch...line.
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