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[Kimbo> Rampage]

Originally Posted by beardown98

I don't think anyone ever said Coleman should be in there because of his record or title it has more to do with how he changed thy way people fought and trained for MMA. It was how he opened the door for other wrestlers to enter the sport. He showed the MMA world how Wrestlers could excel in the sport. That at least is why i feel he belongs in the UFC HOF.

Good point.

I guess see a HOF needing higher standards... with the sport being so young it should be very empty at this point... Some guys may be put in there because there are so few members...

Mark was not the first wrestler, although he pave the way for wrestlers to come as you said.

Just didnt buy into the idea that he revolutionized and changed the GNP game in MMA, as some would say...

not knocking the guy by any means.

[Spyke]

Originally Posted by mma #1 fan

Dan, KEN, ,Mask ,Colemn ,& Royce really did not make the ufc much cash

No, but interestingly enough Dan, Ken, and Coleman have all done pro-wrestling as well. Ken and Dan in WWF no less. Seems like Brock would fit in after all.

[Cat--Smasher]

Heyman: Why wouldn't White want Brock back?

Heyman: Why wouldn't White want Brock back? - Mixed Martial Arts News

Arda Ocal: UFC President Dana White has actually said that if Brock Lesnar would ever want to return to the UFC, I would welcome him with open arms, I'd give him another fight. What do you make of that?

Paul Heyman: I make of it that Dana White is a business man and understands the PPV numbers that Brock can pull in and he's saying *whistles* I want a piece of that action. And I don't blame Dana White. Hey do you think if Brock Lesnar went to the NBA right now, I can dunk a basket ball, want to put me on a team? What teams gonna say no, we don't want the ratings you can bring in Brock, we don't want the numbers you can draw. You think if Brock Lesnar could hit a baseball out of a park that the New York Yankees, the Boston Red Sox, the Minnesota Twins wouldn't put him on the roster? And let him hit that ball out of that park, of course they would.

Dana White knows that Brock Lesnar can turn the Octagaon into the Brocktagon anytime he wants and his PPV numbers are going to go up, up, up up with Brock Lesnar. Why wouldn't Dana White want Brock Lesnar back?

[rivethead]

so in other words, it's fine to be mediocre and get paid like you're elite, as long as you're bringing in viewers.


personally, I'm glad that the NBA, MLB etc...haven't stooped to that level.

rh

[Kimbo> Rampage]

Originally Posted by rivethead

so in other words, it's fine to be mediocre and get paid like you're elite, as long as you're bringing in viewers.


personally, I'm glad that the NBA, MLB etc...haven't stooped to that level.

rh

Are you referring to lesnar?

because losing to the #2 and #3 HW's=Mediocre

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by rampage9712

Are you referring to lesnar?

because losing to the #2 and #3 HW's=Mediocre

If lesnar came back, he'd lose to more than the #2 and 3 HW's...and yet, he'd be paid more than all of them, more than likely.

I'm betting he was paid more than JDS.

That was the point you missed.

rh

[TheKidInside]

RH is once again on point. The reason I am against it is basically everything he said. It takes a way from the Hall of Fame's point (and it's not the fame part of the name). In fact there need to be an independent HoF for MMA. Like, someone needs to seriously put one together using donations/funds and make it cool!

I remember when I was learning journalism/broadcasting, one of my professors who was really successful as a theater production company owner, said that if you don't like some awards show or some music/film festival, start your own! In a few years maybe you'll be attracting as many people as other local shows/festivals do (obviously not as big as Cannes, Toronto, etc but you get the picture).

Invite some old school guys like Dan Sevren, Done Frye, Frank and Ken Shamrock, some Japanese fighters perhaps, etc

Heyman is out of his mind if he thinks Lesnar is going to bring in numbers to the NBA. Analysts/coaches/managers/owners would probably rip him a new a-hole just for suggesting that some freak show is worth their time.