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[W.Silva>C.Norris]

Im not entirely sure, but Im pretty sure that once its on your body, its yours. I mean, you can alter, remove, or cover up without permission.. As long as its not generating revenue right?

[Sniggles]

How do you even begin to quantify the amount the tattoo artist gets?

Seems like another instance of the law tripping over itself.

[Thamob]

Isn't this like the Mike Tyson thing? Did that guy even win? Everybody is desperate for buck nowadays.

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by Thamob

Isn't this like the Mike Tyson thing? Did that guy even win? Everybody is desperate for buck nowadays.

they settled out of court with the Tyson guy...but he had a FAR better case than Condit's guy.

rh

[Sniggles]

Most celebrity lawsuits are extortion attempts. Lowlifes hope to get leech off the success of another.

[Thamob]

Originally Posted by Sniggles

Most celebrity lawsuits are extortion attempts. Lowlifes hope to get leech off the success of another.

No kidding. Why not use this as a bloody opportunity? Advertise that your artwork can be seen in the game bla bla. Everybody's looking for a fast buck.

[trustkill]

Originally Posted by rivethead

I think it's may well come down to copywrite issues, were a public image is fair game for reproduction if 20% of it is changed.

rh

Bingo. The issue is reproduction.

The Hangover lawsuit wasn't about Tyson specifically, it was the fact that the producers of The Hangover reproduced Tyson's tattoo for Ed Helm's character. The movie admits that Tyson's tattoo was the inspiration for reproduction, and hence, they chose to settle because the artist had a case.

This THQ issue may play out the same way. To make their video game facsimile look authentic, they used the original artists work on Condit's body to reproduce a digital facsimile. It would be hard for THQ to argue that their work isn't lifted from the artist's work, since the video game character and the real life fighter have the same name, Carlos Condit.

Interesting to see how this intellectual property case plays out.

[xrjxarsonx]

Originally Posted by trustkill

Bingo. The issue is reproduction.

The Hangover lawsuit wasn't about Tyson specifically, it was the fact that the producers of The Hangover reproduced Tyson's tattoo for Ed Helm's character. The movie admits that Tyson's tattoo was the inspiration for reproduction, and hence, they chose to settle because the artist had a case.

This THQ issue may play out the same way. To make their video game facsimile look authentic, they used the original artists work on Condit's body to reproduce a digital facsimile. It would be hard for THQ to argue that their work isn't lifted from the artist's work, since the video game character and the real life fighter have the same name, Carlos Condit.

Interesting to see how this intellectual property case plays out.

well said. its not about the image being see on tv, media or whatever. its about the digital artist copying the tattoo artists original design without permission or compensation. its sounds like a silly case, but usually when you get a tattoo in all the forms you fill out there is a part about the artist work remaining theirs and any use of it without permission is prohibited.

if the artist still has the paperwork he may have a case

[rivethead]

Originally Posted by trustkill

Interesting to see how this intellectual property case plays out.

I think it's going to resolve to that 20% difference, myself. I've seen other cases that were more solid get tossed in more traditional print-media. If zuffa didn't tweak the work, it serves them right, I guess.

Originally Posted by xrjxarsonx

well said. its not about the image being see on tv, media or whatever. its about the digital artist copying the tattoo artists original design without permission or compensation. its sounds like a silly case, but usually when you get a tattoo in all the forms you fill out there is a part about the artist work remaining theirs and any use of it without permission is prohibited.

if the artist still has the paperwork he may have a case

I've designed the bulk of my tats, but I've had a couple one-offs by artists, I've never signed anything to that effect.

I think it's more along the lines of Tyson's artist, where he literally had Tyson sign over reproduction rights to him...if Condit's guy has anything like that, he may have a case...but I don't think boilerplate tat shop don't-sue-me-if-you-get-Hep stuff is going to cut it.

rh

[Sniggles]

I am quite sure this law was implemented so that people in the relative industry could not copy an artist's work. Not for bastardized use of the law like this.