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Since it's nonstimulant, I presume you could stack it on top of a stimulant?
You can...a lot of people do and say it's pretty effective. I can't handle stims though so I don't have first hand experience.
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I get all my supps from a company called IBE Nutrition. You can get info on their stuff and read people's experiences here:

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/ibe-technology/
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You can...a lot of people do and say it's pretty effective. I can't handle stims though so I don't have first hand experience.
Cool I figured you could but figured I should double check first. I honestly need to quit all stimulants for a while to get my resistance down. My problem though is I have constant sinus and allergy problems and the only thing that helps is pseudophedrine which while not a strong stimulant I've taken it for so long that stimulants don't even phase me.
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I work as a personal trainer and can safely say that the most effective supplement that I use when on fat cutting periods is a thermogenic called Hot-Rox Extreme found here: http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1066793

Couple that with at least 10g of fish oil a day, and you have the foundations of an effective fat loss plan. Most "weight" loss pills around today are useless and actually can be quite harmful to your health. No one should ever use Hydroxy-cut, as post-ephedra ban has been replaced with nothing but more caffeine. I can' tell you how many failed cases I've encountered with that product. If anyone would like further info about supplements, diet, or training, feel free to PM me.
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I work as a personal trainer and can safely say that the most effective supplement that I use when on fat cutting periods is a thermogenic called Hot-Rox Extreme found here: http://www.t-nation.com/readArticle.do?id=1066793

Couple that with at least 10g of fish oil a day, and you have the foundations of an effective fat loss plan. Most "weight" loss pills around today are useless and actually can be quite harmful to your health. No one should ever use Hydroxy-cut, as post-ephedra ban has been replaced with nothing but more caffeine. I can' tell you how many failed cases I've encountered with that product. If anyone would like further info about supplements, diet, or training, feel free to PM me.
For a stimulant I was gonna go the direct ECA route, since Ephedrine is still legal and caffeine and aspirin are dirt cheap.
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